> Please, Roman - I was v careful to insert the adjective 'only' in front of > 'music' ; perhaps I ought to have gone even further and made it clear I'm > speaking about the instrument in the normal guitar tuning. I can't think what > else wld have been done with it in the mid 19thC. There are a few possibilities....
> > To my mind the only difficulty, as you pointed out earlier, is the double > stringing; did the german lauten-gitarre ever had double strung courses? Not as I recall.... RT > > Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mathias, >> >> Thank you fr this - I'm not quite sure the point you're making. I >> specifically said that we ought not to think of V's instrument as a guitar - >> my comment point about the tuning he might have employed was an altogether >> different point; I'm sorry if this was not clear enough. As has been said >> before, the key to naming is usage - if the only music played on an >> instrument >> is guitar music then what ought that instrument to be thought of? > Yesterday I played the 2 Sor pieces from > http://polyhymnion.org/swv/opus-2.html > on my 13-course. Did it turn it into a guitar? > RT > > > > >> >> rgds >> >> Martyn >> >> "Mathias R?" wrote: >>> Incidentally, on this business of early steps towards using 'old' >>> instruments >>> in performance, >>> are you aware of the 1845 concert in which Ventura (the harp-lute-guitar man >>> and principal competitor of Edward Light) played the theorbo (Galpin Soc >>> Journal 1989). There's no evidence as to how it was tuned (and indeed if it >>> was a theorbo or an archlute) but I suspect it may have used a guitar tuning >>> rather like the contemporary 'Bass Guitars' with open bass strings. >> is there any precedence of a performer who played the lute and called it >> a guitar? No, I suppose. There may have been some cases of editions or >> performances where guitars were called lutes, out of predilection for >> the air of antiquity, i. e. middle ages from a romantic viewpoint, as >> you say. >> >>> Am I suggesting we therefore call V's instrument a guitar? - No - a bridge >>> too far. >> >> Players as well as editors like de Call were well aware of differences >> and could tell one from another. You speak of predilection for pretence >> of antiquity, yourself. So, why should we call the lute a guitar? Out of >> mere predilection? >> >> Quitting discussion here, >> >> Mathias >> >> -- >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> -- > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
