>>> I have heard the claim - only from lute players - that the lute
>>> repertoire is much larger than that of the classical guitar. This seems to
>>> be accepted as undisputed fact - again, only by lute players.
>>> 
>>> I have been immersed in both worlds now for over 40 years, I have been
>>> paying close attention, I am not in any way hampered by some bias one way or
>>> the other - and I do not see it that way at all.
>>> 
>>> I think, without any basis in solid research, that there's more guitar
>>> music just from the 19th century than there is lute music in total.
>> That is indeed true, but only if you include Biedermeier wallpaper "music"
>> in Music.
> 
> ...So you're saying that there is no "pedestrian" music in the lute's
> rep?
Sure there is. But nearly not as much.


>>> If a guitarist already knew all of the music for his instrument -
>>> including the art songs, guitar ensemble music, duos, concerti, etudes, etc.
>>> - he couldn't possibly keep up with the music that is being published every
>>> day.
>> There is an enormous amount of it churned out by MO and the like every year,
>> but I doubt that any of it is Music, with the exception of Peteris Vasks
>> guitar Sonata (probably the only guitar piece by a world-class composer
>> during 20th century). Sound effects pap of Delpriora's type just cannot
>> count. 
>> 
>> RT
> 
> Now I must beg your pardon.
None forthcoming.


I had no idea I was corresponding with the
> sole arbiter of musical taste of our time. (please read the sarcasm into the
> tone.)
> 
> Or, to put it another way: Does the grass around your place grow
> especially green because of all that BS?
> JM
In full bloom year 'round.
RT




>>>> "I wonder if lute concerts will ever be on the level of guitar concerts
>>>> where lutenist's have the proper professional stage presence to not be
>>>> staring at their music all the time.  This might give them more appeal to
>>>> the general concert going public, and more acceptance by guitarist's.  I
>>>> always felt a little jiped when a guitarist would play a concert sight
>>>> reading the whole thing, I thought they didn't spend enough time learning
>>>> the music."
>>>> 
>>>> Funnily enough I don't take great exception to this, although it baffles me
>>>> as to why you would want to be in the company of lutenists if you think so
>>>> little of our ability as performers!
>>>> 
>>>> The paths of lutenists and guitarists diverged 30 years ago - there is a
>>>> tradition of playing from tablature amongst lutenists, but I would not
>>>> necessarily equate it with sight reading. I think you will find most lute
>>>> players spend as much time studying the music and developing their
>>>> interpretations as any guitarist - it's just a different way of working.
>>>> The lute repertoire is very significantly larger than that of the classical
>>>> guitar.
>>>> Segovia (whom I admire greatly) did much to establish the form and content
>>>> of the guitar recital format, which included playing from memory, but it
>>>> has
>>>> to be said that the content of his performances was predictable.
>>>> There are only so many times that you want to hear the Bach Chaconne, the
>>>> Villa Lobos preludes and so on before your ears glaze over, whether played
>>>> from memory or not. I don't know what others on the list think, but I have
>>>> certainly noticed a marked reduction in the number of classical guitar
>>>> recitals since the 1980's and I think the lack of repertoire is very much
>>>> part of that.
>>>> 
>>>> Lutenists, by way of contrast, have a sufficient wealth of repertoire to
>>>> play concert after concert without playing the same piece twice. I'm not
>>>> claiming that we always do that, but there is great scope for variety.
>>>> We don't need to hang our careers on grandiose "interpretations" of the
>>>> same few pieces. Renaissance music is not Romantic music (in the
>>>> context of the music history definition of the word) - the players role is
>>>> often to detach one's ego from the performance and let the music
>>>> speak for itself.
>>>> 
>>>> So it's a different world to that of the classical guitar - please feel
>>>> welcome to be part of it, but try to understand that there are reasons why
>>>> we do things our own way.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Denys
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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