Oh - and that's why they copied the music into manuscripts?
Fantasias, passacalias and some others were improvised and seldom notated
but I would have several sources telling that they played from scores, even
their own  music (take a look at Marpurg for example).
The idea of playing from memory is a development of the romantic period
when the performer and his virtuosity got more importance than the music
itself (just as example may deal Paganini whose compositions are mediocre
but were presented in what must have been a great show: sawing of a string
to show how great he is to be able to play a piece even with a broken
string etc. .. btw: the piece was written that it could be easily played
without that string. In the romantic period a "show-aspect" came into music
performance )

Thomas




"Dr. Marion Ceruti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 05.04.2005 13:52:16

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Thema: Re: Strap Buttons



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Thames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Apr 4, 2005 6:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Dr. Marion Ceruti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
             Ramon Marco de Sevilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: Strap Buttons

Michael,


>     Regarding Williams's memorization act: how many
>instruments and tunings does he perform on on a
>regular basis?  (Koyunbaba doesn't count.)

>Chris

        Well this is really the most beautiful part of a John Williams
concert, or for that matter any concert, isn't it. His ability to perform
flawlessly from memory where everything is perfected to the T. A rare
event.

++I have always enjoyed John Williams.

  From my own experience I have no problem going back and forth to
different
instruments and playing from memory.  I've heard others do though.

++It all goes back to the different ways people memorize music. If you
memorize
how it sounds you can go back and forth between many different instuments,
just as long as you practice them often enough to remember how to make each
sound. If you memorzie music by thinking of only the physical configuration
of
your hands, you will have trouble with the changing from one tuning to
another.

     This whole idea of playing from sheet music is fine, but I believe a
total fabrication of the 20 th century lutenist's.
  I keep hearing the reason for this is grounded in the fact that thesedays
everyone plays 15 different instruments.

++I do not buy this argument, but then again I memorize music with
less difficulty than many others.

  In the past this was not a problem was it? wWere does one find a
tradition
of this?
    As I said before it seems that more historical methods suggest
memorization.

++Sheet music is fine for people who either can't or don't want to
memorize.
In the past, paper and even parchment were not as readily available and
cost
more to produce. Those on the border line between reading and memorizing
chose to save money by memorizing music. It is much more fun to play
that way, assuming that you can.

Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dr. Marion Ceruti"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ramon Marco de Sevilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Strap Buttons


> Michael,
>
>
>      Regarding Williams's memorization act: how many
> instruments and tunings does he perform on on a
> regular basis?  (Koyunbaba doesn't count.)
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> --- Michael Thames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I heard that some people use a silk ribbon tied to
> > the pegbox. and simply
> > sit on the other end
> > Michael Thames
> > www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dr. Marion Ceruti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ramon Marco de Sevilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Strap Buttons
> >
> >
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > So far, I have not heard of a strap button pulling
> > out of a lute.
> > > However, I have heard of a strap button damaging a
> > guitar
> > > that was checked into the airlines. It was not
> > packed correctly
> > > and the luggage handliers set it down hard on the
> > button end.
> > > The button shifted into the instrument and cracks
> > developed.
> > > Other than that story I have not heard any
> > disadvantages
> > > of a strap button, only advantages.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Marion
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ramon Marco de Sevilla
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Apr 4, 2005 12:50 PM
> > > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> > > Subject: Strap Buttons
> > >
> > > Are lutes built strongly enough to handle strap
> > buttons?
> > >
> > > I have a hard time keeping my lute stable on my
> > lap and am thinking a
> > > strap may help (or velcro!).
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
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