On Tuesday 19 April 2005 08:00, you wrote:
I second David's opinion. The gimped strings are indeed a bit too metallic.
The alternative is however a thick Pistoy cable on your lute for basstrings.
For me a reason to keep the gimped strings until I have better alternative:
Dan is sending me at the moment some experimental loaded gut strings made
with tungsten, which should not exhibit the problems commonly attached to
loaded gut strings, but I don't have any experience yet with them. Perhaps
the ideal is a lute without gimped strings using pistoy-like strings for
basses for G (6) and F (7) on renaissance lutes/archlutes and these loaded
gut for lower basses (which are not used on fretted positions normally).
By the way my experience with these gimped strings for a 10 course is that
these strings grow better in sound after approx. 6 months to a year in sound.
The metallic sound however does not disappear unfortunately.
Taco
> Dear Ed
>
> I liked the sound, though for me they were a tiny bit too metallic, so I
> changed them on all of my lutes to Pistoys after all. Only on the big
> d'-lute I've kept them (too expensive, indeed, to change for the few times
> I need the
> instrument, and on this moster a little more punch doesn't hurt.
> You'll be able to hear these strings on this bass lute on my upcoming cd
> with
> all Terzi duets). Trueness was no problem, I didn't experience the trouble
> on string 6 Edward talked about. But Gimped strings do tend to get out of
> tune in the other direction than the pure gut octave strings, that was a
> problem in concerts. So, I made a _very_ expensive experiment.
>
> David
>
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "lute list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:48 PM
> Subject: Re: lute outreach -tuning..
>
> > Ed and Eric,
> > I know the gimped strings sound great. I heard one on Kenneth's lute.
> > Have you paired these gimped strings with an octave? Any problems
> > with intonation? I'd mostlikely pair it with a Nylgut octave. I was
> > just at Dan's site and about to order some gimped strings, but unless
> > I'm mistaken, these are very expensive. I'd be getting about 5 or 6
> > strings (for two lutes). This is a couple hundred dollars. I'm very
> > concerned about the trueness. I found the loaded gut strings were
> > useless when paired with an octave string. They would be in tune at
> > the open position and out of tune at the third fret. I would pair it
> > with a Nylgut octave. Do you think that would create problems? For
> > example, would they go in opposite directions if the climate changed?
> > I don't want to make an expensive mistake.
> > TIA
> >
> >>As I said before, I use Dan Larson's gimped strings for mandolino and
> >>archlute bases... and they seem to be very long-lived indeed. I
> >>personally
> >>like these strings very much. And yes, they are as you describe them. On
> >>Dan's earlier gimped strings the wire was often detectable on the
> >>surface of
> >>the string. With his current version, you only feel the smooth gut
> >>surface. These strings are also very pretty to look at since you can see
> >>the spiral of wire through the gut.
> >>
> >>Best,
> >>
> >>Eric
> >>
> >>Craig Allen wrote:
> >>>Ed wrote:
> >>>>Wound 6th courses do not last as long as gut strings, believe me. I
> >>>>think
> >>>>it is because in a wound string, you have 2 moving parts.... the metal
> >>>>winding, and then the floss core. They are actually moving parts,
> >>>> where in
> >>>>a gut string, the gut fibers are homogeneously bound. Gut basses last
> >>>>(seemingly) forever.
> >>>
> >>>Have you had any experience with the gimped string? If I recall
> >>>this is a gut string with a single wire wrapped in a longish
> >>>spiral. I have the same problem Michael does with the wound
> >>>strings, particularly on the fifth course, wearing out right around
> >>>the third fret.
> >>>
> >>>As a side note, has anyone experimented with making a gimped nylon,
> >>>nylgut or carbon fiber bass string?
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>Craig
> >>>
> >>>
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> > Ed Durbrow
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