The best way to handle non standard tablature features is 
to write your own program.  I find myself hacking in features 
quite often.  The problem is that sometimes the features have to
be taken out later.

http://www3.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tablature.cgi?Capirola/Capirola_Padoana.pdf

        Wayne


> From: "Denys Stephens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
> 
> Dear Leonard,
> Thanks for that information - it's good to know
> about that edition. I wonder if he has a tab program
> that can handle the split course? I often find myself
> trying to reproduce features from non-standard early
> tablature that break the rules. I seem to remember
> getting stuck on trying to reproduce unmeasured
> tablature as the programs don't like not to have bar lines!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Denys
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leonard Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Lute List" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
> 
> 
> > On 5/30/05 7:39 AM, "Denys Stephens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Denys and Michael--
> >         Miles Dempster's complete edition of Capirola successfully notates
> > the split third course.  Interesting effect.  It's possible to rewrite the
> > tablature to play all the necessary notes without splitting, but the
> > acoustic effect is not the same.
> >
> > Leonard Williams
> >
> >
> > > There is one other point to watch out for in the Lyre Music edition
> > > I have referred to above - the famous "Padoana belissima" (Alla
> Venetiana)
> > > by Capirola has in the original a section using the technique of
> "splitting"
> > > (i.e. dividing)
> > > the third course into its two component strings and playing different
> > > notes on them. This completely defeats modern tab programmes
> > > and the relevent sections in the edition have been rewritten in an
> attempt
> > > to bypass the
> > > problem. However, I think that it's a shame to lose this technical
> feature
> > > from the piece - it's not hard to play and draws a unique sound from the
> > > lute.
> > > To see the original you need the SPES Facsimile of the Capirola
> manuscript
> > > or the 1955 Otto Gombosi edition of it.
> > >
> > > If you really like Dalza there's no better way to get to know the music
> > > than to get a copy of the original, the "Intabulatura de lauto Libro
> Quarto"
> > > published by Petrucci in Venice, 1508. There are quite a few
> typographical
> > > errors in the print to watch out for but lots of very enjoyable music.
> > > I think the facsimile published by Minkoff is currently in print.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Denys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "lute net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Denys Stephens"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
> > >
> > >
> > >>> Dear Michael,
> > >>> Dalza uses a tuning where both the fifth and sixth
> > >>> courses are tuned a tone lower than "normal" - see
> > >>> folio 27v of his book where the instructions
> > >>> are included at the beginning of the piece.
> > >>
> > >>> Best wishes,
> > >>
> > >>> Denys
> > >>
> > >>    Thanks Denys,
> > >>         I only have a few Xeroxed copies of some Dalsa.  Which book
> would
> > >> you recommend?
> > >>        I have three editions by Dick Hoban which are great, and was
> > >> considering ordering the Italian dance music, which I'm sure has lots
> of
> > >> Dalsa.
> > >>        However, I still don't understand the notation I guess.
> > >>     The "a" below the 6th course would normally indicate an open  7th
> > > course
> > >> but this means to tune the 6th course down a step?.  Why would there be
> 2
> > >> different open  "a" one for the 6th and one to indicate the tuning?
> > >>
> > >> Michael Thames
> > >> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Denys Stephens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: "lute net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:18 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Dear Michael,
> > >>> Dalza uses a tuning where both the fifth and sixth
> > >>> courses are tuned a tone lower than "normal" - see
> > >>> folio 27v of his book where the instructions
> > >>> are included at the beginning of the piece.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best wishes,
> > >>>
> > >>> Denys
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 5:55 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> Plenty of examples, the earliest being several piece in the
> >Capirola
> > >>> lute
> > >>>>> book.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Kenneth Be
> > >>>>
> > >>>>    Glad this question came up, as I'm confused about this.  I can see
> > > in
> > >>> for
> > >>>> instance in Padonana by Capriola is pretty straight forward, but what
> > >>> about
> > >>>> a Pavana alla Ferrarese by Dalsa, that indicates tuning the 6th
> course
> > >>> down
> > >>>> a step yet at the same time shows an open "a'' on the 6th courses as
> > >> well?
> > >>>> Michael Thames
> > >>>> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>> To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 7:36 AM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: Mudarra's bordon
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> In a message dated 5/27/2005 7:10:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >>>>> I don't know whether any 16th century lute music involves tuning the
> > >> 6th
> > >>>>> course  down a tone.  Perhaps someone on the list can tell us.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Plenty of examples, the earliest being several piece in the Capirola
> > >>> lute
> > >>>>> book.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Kenneth Be
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
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