The "quint" should be tuned to "+"  ("et") which looks like the "t' that is
given by mistake in the instructions for the top course. That is, one tunes
the top course to the FIFTH fret on the II course("+"), not
the fourth fret on the II course (="t")..  So, (G)_d_d_a_d'_g'.

Notice that the first cipher and others have lines above them.  So the first
note is I:h. (="k" withline in German tablature)

here are Newsidler's names for the courses:

I:    Quint Saitte
II:   Klein Saitte
III:  Mitl Saitte
IV:  Klein Brummer
V:   Mitl Brummer
VI:  Gross Brummer

ajn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G.R. Crona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Lutelist" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Judentanz Neusidler etc.


> Hier volget der Juden Tantz, und wer ihn schlagen will, der muss die
> Lautten
> anders ziehen. Nun volget der Zug/ zieh Erstlich den Mitlern Brumer und
> die
> klein Saitten/ die Newen dem mitl Brumer stet/ der zieffer furn/gleich als
> da 4.
> und den klein Brumer. Muss gleich lautten/wie der mitl Brumer wie vor ge-
> melt der mitl Brumer und die Saitten dar Neben/ und der klein Brumer
> müssen
> all drey eine gleiche Stimme haben/ und der zieffer viere als da 4
> gleich lautten/ und
> die Obrer quint Saitten muss man dem t gleich ziehen/ so ist der zug
> recht.
> Man mag auch vil ander tentz auch auff dem zug schlagen.
>
> Der Juden Tantz
> er muss gar ser be-
> hendt / geschlagen
> werden / sonst laut
> er nicht wohl.
>
> I get the end: " You can play many other dances with this tuning".
>
> Otherwise, the german mostly eludes me...
>
> "Here follows the Jew's dance. And whoever wants to play it, has to
> tune the lute differently.
> Here follows the tuning:
> First, tune the 5th course and the small strings...
>
> after that I get lost.
>
> B.R.
> G.
>
> On 6/4/05, Thomas Schall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you can read german tablature
>> try http://aris.ss.uci.edu/rgarfias/jtanz/jtanz.html
>> There is a facsimile of the piece
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Thomas
>>
>> Am Samstag, 4. Juni 2005 11:10 schrieben Sie:
>> > Dear all,
>> > I have a rather urgent request as I was invited to play a short concert
>> > at a symposion in Austria: "Jews and Christians in the Medieval and
>> > renaissance". I was especially asked to play the Judentanz by
>> > Neusidler.
>> > I have also learned that there are some other "Jew's dances" by Heckel,
>> > Judenkunig and others. Has anybody of you a copy of these pieces and
>> > can
>> > send me a pdf or jpeg or similar file? The problem is that I have no
>> > time to wait for a bookorder by snailmail as I still have to prepare
>> > and
>> > practice the music. Normally I buy all the books I am playing out of
>> > and
>> > the rest of the program is taken from them but this time there is too
>> > little time to order them from abroad. If there is an interesting piece
>> > maybe in the National Bibliothek Vienna let me know, I can try to go
>> > for
>> > it. If you have any recent information about the tuning of the
>> > Neusidler
>> > Judentanz I would appreciate your help.
>> > Best regards
>> > Hermann Platzer
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > To get on or off this list see list information at
>> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Schall
>> Niederhofheimer Weg 3
>> D-65843 Sulzbach
>> 06196/74519
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "Three switched witches watch three swatch watch switches.
>> Which switched witch watches which swatch watch switch?"
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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