Dear Ed, I don't think there is much about continuo realisation which we can learn from this particular setting involving the lyra viol. The chances are that we know more about Caccini now than the person who produced that mangled version of Miserere did then.
I would give Robert Dowland a bit more credibility, because his dad would almost certainly have heard monody on his trip to Italy, yet his realisation for lute and bass viol would not have been the same as Caccini's with a chitarrone. Horses for courses, and all that. My aim was to edit Miserere as it was in Add 15117, i.e. as a song with lyra viol accompaniment. The problem is deciding what to do. Do you virtually re-write the whole thing, knowing what Caccini's Amarilli was like, or do you try to include as much as possible from Add 15117, knowing that it's a shambles? Best wishes, Stewart. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:49 AM Subject: Re: Miserere my maker > >In Lbl Add. MS > >15117 there is a song with the same words, but to the tune of > >Caccini's "Amarilli mia bella", with an accompaniment for lyra viol > >in French lute tablature. > >Last year I tried to make a workable edition of the lyra viol song, > >but it is a nightmare to edit. Either you leave it much as it is in > >Add 15117, warts and all, or you try to reconcile it with Caccini's > >original. The former leads you to include things which you know were > >not intended by Caccini, but which may have been tolerated by the > >scribe of Add 15117, or you re-write the whole shooting match to > >conform to what Caccini had in mind, even though his intention was > >not an accompaniment for lyra viol. It's all a bit of a dog's dinner > >really. > > That sounds like an interesting project/nightmare. Were you making an > edition for lyra viol or for lute? What jumped into my mind is how > interesting it would be to see what the lyra viol did with it, i.e. > realized the figures. The only other realization I know of is Robert > Dowland's which I always ask in my mind 'is this anything like the > way Caccini would have done it?'. If it is very different, which I > suppose it is, that would make an interesting comparison. One should > be able to pretty much play on the lute anything written for the lyra > viol, disregarding key for the moment, so that could be a good > starting point for a lute accompaniment. > cheers, > -- > Ed Durbrow To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
