Dear Stewart,
   
  The business of holding lutes with straps/ gut loops was aired about a year 
ago and you'll no doubt find the communications in the archives.
   
  At the time I was particularly interested in the gut loop option since, in 
the late 70s, I had done some restoration work on a Gallichon/Mandora 
(Stautinger 1773) which not only had these buttons on the body but also 
actually had a loop of gut tied between them; wether the gut loop was 18thC is, 
of course, quite another matter.
   
  Whilst the use of a loop round a button seemed, on the face of it, an 
eminently practical and sensible thoery; the difficulty I had was in making it 
work in practice.  I asked if any one else had tried it and, I recall, only got 
a single response which echoed my own negative experience.
   
  Have you actually tried this method or do you know of anybody who has? More 
to the point if you, or others, have tried it what has been the experience?
   
  MH
   
   
  Stewart McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Dear Craig and Katherine,

An alternative to using a strap, which was used in the 17th Century,
is to tie a gut string between two pegs on the body of the
instrument. One peg is where you'd expect to see a peg, i.e. in the
middle of the end clasp; the other peg is fixed through the middle
rib just before the body joins the neck. The string is tied so that
it lies flush with the middle rib, and you hook it over a button on
your coat to stabilise the lute. It is thought that Mouton may be
holding his lute this way in that famous picture of him. If you
think the artist hasn't quite got it right, and the lute looks as if
it is suspended in front of the player as if by magic, it is
possible that it is being held in this way. There is an article by
Robert Spencer in _Early Music_, with a picture of the back of a
lute, showing the gut string tied between two pegs. I could look up
the reference if you want.

If you play the lute standing up, and without a strap or a piece of
string between two pegs, you have to use your left hand to support
the instrument. This can be satisfactory for short periods, but can
cause irritation to the part of the hand holding the neck,
unaccustomed to the friction involved. Barré chords are problematic,
so you may have to tinker with the music a bit, e.g. change

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Best wishes,

Stewart McCoy.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Allen" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute straps


> Katherine Davies wrote:
> >
> >There are lots of renaissance pictures of people
> >playing lutes while standing up without any sign of a
> >strap. Does anyone do this? Any ideas on how - or if -
> >it could be done?
> >
> >I'm not having a go at strap-users; I'm just a bit
> >puzzled - I have enough trouble keeping the thing in
> >place when I'm sitting down.
>
> A good friend of mine has been doing studies into the Medieval
harp and all the iconography she's seen shows what she calls the
magically levitating harp. No sign of a strap or other gadget to
rest it on the knees (one harper I know has a crossbar on a wooden
knob that fits into the sound hole in the back of the harp and the
crossbar rests on his knees). She's been trying to figure out
whether there is some sort of mechanism in place that the painted
didn't see or if the painters simply didn't understand how the
instrument is played took artiztic license. I"ve tried playing the
lute standing up without a strap and it's very difficult for me. So
I prefer to sit with a piece of suede across my knee to keep the
lute from slipping.
>
> Regards,
> Craig
>
>
>
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