After Phalese stopped publishing his anonymous lute settings there seems also to be a dialogue between the English and Adrianssen too. Light of Love is nearly identical in Ad (Saltarello Englesa, 1584) and the Board book. Conversely, the Pickering Battle duet borrows many devices from A's dances.
Even earlier in the century, the fact that a continental instruction book was deemed viable enough to translate to English suggests that a market was opening up. Arthur, do we know the sources used for the Marsh book's French chansons? Sean On Jul 23, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Arthur Ness wrote: > In tablatures, as pieces are copied and reprinted the > mistakes become cumulative. That is, unless a mistake is > glaring, it is not corrected. And so the number of > mistakes in a piece is an indication of how far it is > from the original. I noticed once that many English > sources with continental music willhave the same > mistakes as the same [pieces in Phalese, which is how I > came to the idea that Phalèse was responsible for much > continental music reaching Britian. > > So what you propose can be instructive in drawing a > stemma of sources. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David van Ooijen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Arthur Ness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:45 AM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Phalèse's bookshelf > > >> Dear Arthur >> >>> But I made the list you are thinking about for my >>> "Sources of Lute Music" article in New Grove (but it >>> was >>> cut due to space limitations). These are the short >>> titles to save me some typing (all except one in >>> Brown). >> >> It looks much like the Brown-list, yes. But that list >> doesn't tell us >> everything. When Phalèse includes a piece in his 1563 >> book, includes it >> again in his 1568 book, and they both look pretty much >> the same, we might >> safely assume he copied the 1568 inclusion from the >> 1563 version he already >> had. But the first appearance is the same, according >> to Brown, as it >> appeared in at least two previous books by different >> publishers. If you take >> the trouble to compare these versions, you will find >> small and perhaps even >> great, differences. Due to copy errors, or some >> different divisions or >> ficta, due to the whim of the editor. Brown still >> calls all these versions >> the same. Carefull studt might reveal the lineage and >> tell us which of those >> two books Phalèse used. I'm doing this now with just >> one piece, and it >> reveals much that Brown doesn't mention, couldn't >> mention in the scope of >> his book, which is just a list. If it would be done >> with _all_ the pieces of >> Phalèse, we might get a pretty conclusive answers to >> what was on his >> bookshelves. >> So I wondered, did anybody ever do something like this >> before? >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > > >
