> I wonder if lutenists of the 15th and early 16th centuries felt the > same about the introduction of the 7, 8 and 10 course instruments, not to > mention the theorbos, attorbiatos etc., as some of us seem to feel about > the > liutos forte, ruby gambas, arch guitars, etc. > > Also regarding Julian Bream, I think Bream gets a damn good sound out of > that lute of his. I think his playing on the "Two Loves" album he did with > Peggy Ascroft reading from Shakespeare is excellent. I don't know that > there > is one, and only one, way a lute can sound. Every lute I've ever played > on, > or heard played, sounds significantly different from every other lute. So > how do we determine what the authentic sound of a lute should be? It all > seems to come down to the fancy of the moment. > > What I get from reading about early players is that they eagerly sought > out > and made use of whatever the latest innovation was. That's why we have > such > a wide spectrum of lutes and lutelike instruments availlable to us today. > I > say the more the merrier, innovate away. > > I have to admit, however, that the makers of the liuto forte do make some > uncalled for and disparaging remarks about traditional lutes on their > website. Does anyone know of a CD or mp3, etc. featuring the liuto forte? > I'd like to hear how it sounds. > > Best to All > Gary Oliver Holzenburg uses one on his Bach CD on Haenssler. There are some other players that use "hybrid" single-strung instruments that are almost L-F. Tim Burris uses a single strung lute set up as liuto-forte http://baroquelute.com/Archives.html Stubbs, Moreno and some others do something of the sort too. RT
. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Lute Net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 5:58 AM > Subject: [LUTE] Liuto Forte > > >> Dear Luca, >> >> To laugh with is fine; to laugh at isn't. >> >> Today's lute players have an attitude to their music-making, which >> is generally different from players of other instruments. We try to >> recreate music from the past, as accurately as we can, within the >> limits of our understanding. It is backward-looking, concerned >> primarily with what happened years ago. Not much new music gets >> composed for the lute today. Some of it finds its way into print, >> but it is small beer compared to the amount of facsimiles and modern >> editions of old music available, and most players are not interested >> in modern music. >> >> Players of other instruments tend to be more forward-looking, and >> are not bogged down in the past. Their aim is to make progress, to >> experiment, to improve. New music is composed without the millstone >> of authenticity. New instruments are developed to satisfy new needs. >> You have only to walk into a music shop and see the fine array of >> guitars for sale, not one of them looking like a 4-course >> renaissance guitar from the 16th century, save perhaps for a ukulele >> or two. >> >> Both approaches have their merits, but I think it is unfair to >> criticise the developers of the liuto forte for not being >> historically minded. That doesn't appear to be their aim. In the >> past, the lute was played to small audiences - for Mary Burwell that >> would be just three or four people. Nowadays we are expected to play >> to much larger audiences, and audibility can be a problem. The liuto >> forte people simply want to create a loud instrument, so that people >> can hear it. You could argue that listening to their instrument is >> not much different from listening to a lute built on historical >> principles amplified through a microphone or recorded onto CD. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Stewart McCoy. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Luca Manassero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:31 AM >> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte >> >> >> > Have a laugh... >> > >> > Here is all what you're looking for: >> > http://www.liuto-forte.com/english/index.htm >> > >> > Sometimes nightmares come true. >> > >> > Luca >> > >> > Bruno Correia on 28/07/2006 4.01 wrote: >> > > Does anybody knows anything about this "Liuto Forte"? I wrote to >> one of the >> > > builders and he replied: >> > > >> > > "In my opinion the liuto forte sounds like a perfect lute, quite >> different >> > > from Julian Breams instruments. If you live in America I want to >> invite you >> > > for the first presentation of the Liuto forte in the United >> States at the >> > > Metropolitan Museum on 20th of September at 3:30 pm". >> > > >> > > Perhaps it would be interesting if someone in the area could >> attend this >> > > presentation, I am curious about it... >> >> >> >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 >> >> > > >
