>>> We must be very careful! There exist an Angelique in Paris (E. >>> 980.2.317, see the new catalogue p. 94) with a neck (not a swan >>> neck, >>> but also not a true theorbo neck - it's something between) who is >>> known from French iconographic sources from 1660-80.
> > Do you mean to say that that instrument can be seen on several (!!) > > contemporaneous paintings? How do you know it is that very > > angelique? Or > > is it the kind of neck (on lutes, though), rather, that was > > portayed in > > 1660-80? > See the article Duigot, Joel: Approche iconographique du theorbe en > France, 1650-1700, in: Musique. Images. Instruments, n.2, 1996, p. > 182-183 Cannot see it. Not available here. And I don't speak French. Would you mind? Short summary or something, or the main thesis? >>> I know a Tielke lute from 1680 in Zurich (the label is disapeared...) >>> who was probably changed from 11-course to an Angelique with a swan >>> neck and then changed to a "normal" 13-course lute. > > Which evidence is there for that in-between-stadium as an angelique? > The wholes in the pegbox are altered and the now used pegs are very > small. Which proves that it is a 13c lute with very small pegs and an altered pegbox. So what? Any specific footprints of the angelique? Something like traces of a broad bridge for 16 or 17 strings? (To be sure, I'm not an expert on angeliques, just curious.) > Not all are really swan-necked! See the Paris instrument! I'd love to see pictures of that instrument. -- Best, Mathias http://mathiasroesel.livejournal.com http://www.myspace.com/mathiasroesel http://de.geocities.com/mathiasroesel -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
