Dear Werner, That is a very good question. One thing to keep in mind is that very first lute book (or any music at all) to be printed was in 1507 or so, by the Petrucci press. Everything prior to that was by manuscript only.
The Spanish DID play the lute. There are old accounts from registers & inventories state that a violero (builder) was a builder of lutes, but after 1500, the same person was a builder of vihuelas. I think the recent discovery of the "Chambure" vihuela reflects the fact that when building vihuelas, the arched an ribbed back was a quote to old times, where lute backs were vaulted & ribbed. This Chambure lute, with the vaulted, ribbed back, is a reflection on the lute, in my opinion. There is really no difference in playing a vihuela or a lute; almost identical techniques, identical tunings. So, one can perform the same music on either instrument. Some scholars claim that the lute was played in Spain in the 16th century, more than we are aware; it was referred to as the "Vihuela de Flanders". But, the 7 extant books, + a few other sources, are all for vihuela. Perhaps it was due to the Spanish Inquisition, or even fashion at the time. One thing for certain, is that the music left for us, by the vihuelistas, is absolutely wonderful, gorgeous music. You mentioned Italy... Francesco states that his pieces can be played on a lute _or_ a vihuela. So, Francesco was certainly aware of the vihuela. I do not believe we know "why" the lute died out in Spain, but we seem to think that the Spanish Inquisition and disdain for the Moors were the reason to not patronize the lute during that period. The lute was, at that time and place, politically incorrect. But, the reason to not play the lute did not stop the flowering of beautiful music...... i.e., Milan, Narvaez, Mudarra, Fuenllana, Valderrabano, Piiisador, Daca, etc. Other that those mentioned, John Ward mentions in his well known dissertation, multiple names of other famous vihuelistas at the time. He lists: Francesco de Agules, Torres Barroso, Pedro Bravo, Francesco Cardone, Hieronimo Carranca, Gaspar Diez, Fracisco Guerrero, Luiz de Guzman, Hernado de Jaen, Lopez, Macotera, Pedro de Madrid, Lucas de Matos, Mano di Castillo, Luys Mamon, Pedro de Mesa, Andres de Narvaez (son of Luis), Peixoto de Pena, Baltasar Ramirez, Manuel Rodriguez, Martin de Sanchez, Gaspar de Torres, and Luis de Vargas. ed At 05:05 PM 1/6/2007 +0100, Werner Bogula wrote: >Hi experts, > >over the holiday season I read some books about the history of Spain >and the musical culture of the Renaissance. >What really strikes me: Why isn't there any lute music from the Spanish >Renaissance? > >Spanish Musicians (like Mudarra) traveled to Italy, the music of >Josquin has been intabulated in Spain. But the surviving prints >from Spain are all for the vihuela (or 4 course-guitar). I really >cannot image, that Spain was excluded from the pan European culture of >the lute. > >Some scholars say, that the lute was too much associated with the >moorish occupation in El Andalus, so the Spanish avoided that >instrument. >But el Andalus was regained by the Spanish before 1500, before the >flowering time of the lute in Europe. > >So is there any historical evidence, why this is the case (Verdicts, >laws) ?Or is it just a misjudgement, because only the printed works for >the vihuela have survived? > >Thanks > Werner > > >Am 06.01.2007 um 14:23 schrieb EUGENE BRAIG IV: > > > I looked around the Alice Musik site a bit. If you enter their frames > > page from the home page < http://www.alice-musik.se/ > and click > > "Shop", you appear to be able to buy directly from the label. > > > > Eugene > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Werner Bogula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Saturday, January 6, 2007 8:03 am > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: looking for Albert de Rippe CD with Fantasies > > > >> Thank you everybody! > >> > >> I looked at the picture of the CD at alice-musik web site. That is > >> the > >> CD, I was looking for. > >> > >> Now I only have to find a shop to buy it... > >> > >> Great work > >> we > >> > >> > >> Am 05.01.2007 um 23:51 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> > >>> Hi all! > >>> > >>> the CD you want is probably recorded by Peter Soderberg. > >>> more info at http://www.alice-musik.se/022.html > >>> > >>> Cheers! > >>> > >>> Lex van Sante > >>> > >>>> Dear lute freaks, > >>> > >>>> some month ago I saw a nice CD with lute fantasias of Albert de > >>> Rippe. > >>>> When I went back to the record store, it was sold. > >>>> I was looking across all the record stores on the net but could not > >>>> find the CD, unfortunately I do not know the artist nor the label. > >>>> Does anybody know about a CD, recently recorded with Albert de > >>> Rippe > >>>> Fantasias? > >>> > >>>> Thanks for your help > >>>> we > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> To get on or off this list see list information at > >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >>> > >>> > >> ...................................................................... > >> . > >> ................................................ > >> jogmap - map your jog | Ihre Laufstrecken im Internet unter > >> www.jogmap.de > >> > >> > >> > > > > >....................................................................... >................................................ >jogmap - map your jog | Ihre Laufstrecken im Internet unter >www.jogmap.de Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202
