Hello! was on my way to a hike when I got your email.. yes, oil of turpentine is well, just turpentine.. HOWEVER hardware or house painters turpentine is usually of TERRIBLE quality. For fine art painting, and probably for luthiers as well, I always recommend Windsor and Newton English Distilled which can be purchased at any decent art store in various quantities and it is really excellent turpentine. It flows like water, is very pure and very white... Beware of the fumes though... and avoid getting it on the hands . While most turpentine related health issues come from extended exposure as measured in years, it is important to note that some people are allergic to turps and will fairly quickly develop headaches, dizziness etc on short term exposures. I enclose a quick discussion about turpentine as related to our work as luthiers Natural turpentine is obtained from tapping or scraping the wounds on a variety of coniferous trees. The crude turpentine (scrape) is about 20% essential oils, 60% solids, and 20% water and waste material.
While the range of products known as turpentine includes balsam oil, Stroudsbourg and Venetian turpentine; the rosin oils, and oil of turpentine, have specific but limited applications in the making of varnish. By far the most important is pure gum spirits. Separating the essential oil and solid content of crude turpentine makes pure gum spirits. The crude gum is heated, refined, and separated by distillation into gum spirits and rosin. The standards for the manufacture of pure gum spirits dates, in the US, to colonial times when the colonies were a prime source for "naval stores". These same standards remain in effect today. In the manufacture of varnish pure gum spirits has a variety of roles. It is a solvent, a flowing agent, and a drier. As a solvent in linseed oil varnish, turpentine is unique. Turpentine cannot be considered a solvent in the same way that alcohol dissolves shellac or water dissolves salt. These are solutions where a specific quantity of solid combines with the solvent to form a diluted copy of itself. Evaporate the solvent and the solid is left unaltered. Linseed oil is highly solvent in turpentine at room temperature. Once combined however, the turpentine and linseed oil cannot be separated by distillation into the original components. Turpentine and linseed oil are mutually soluble. Some resins are directly soluble in turpentine. Some resins require processing to make them soluble. Natural varnish resins are compounds. A mixture of turpentine and resin will contain dissolved and undissolved elements suspended in the mixture. Resin solutions are colloidal in nature and once established will not break down into their original components. Natural varnish resins and turpentine are mutually s! oluble. In the varnish making process turpentine is added to the resin and oil to promote the mutual solubility of the three elements. As a flowing agent turpentine is superior to other solvents. If a linseed oil varnish is made in the same way, except mineral spirits is used instead of turpentine, and samples of each are brushed on the same surface, the brush marks will flow out of the turpentine varnish first and most completely. As the varnish film cures mineral spirits will evaporate completely. Turpentine never completely evaporates. A small percentage remains in the varnish as an elastic resinous substance. Turpentine acts as a drier in linseed oil varnish. When pure turpentine is exposed to the atmosphere at room temperature it begins to thicken and gain molecular weight. It absorbs oxygen from the air faster and more efficiently than linseed oil. In varnish it passes oxygen from the air to the oleo-resinous compound. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clive Titmuss & Susan Adams To: lute-builder Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] more on mastic inlay Thanks all for those suggestions. Great to hear from you all and as always profitable in the saving in time and effort. The suggestions appear to come down to; -A ground vegetable pigment to stain the mastic, rather than dye or ink, to prevent absorption into the softwood grain. Vegetable pigment could be charcoal, ebony dust coarsely ground (per Stradivari, no less). I also have a substance referred to as "vegetable black" in a set of earth pigments, which are clays ground finely. -Mixing the ground mastic with turpentine by in a bath/filter bag, adding the pigment when the paste is workable, say with a palette knife, then evaporating to create the proper consistency. I expect there might be some shrinkage and that a subsequent fill might be neccessary? {I have also located a source from a lab supply company in the US for what appears to be prepared mastic paste, though I could not confirm this with the supplier, it's still on order. Cost is pretty high, $45 for 25 g. versus about $17 for the raw tears from Celtic Moon, incense supply. I have a feeling it may be used for preparing biological specimens such as insects or microscope slides. Here is the listing and website address: Mastic Gum, Tears CAS: 61789-92-2 Consists of Approximately 2% Volatile Oil, Masticinic and Masticonic Acids, Masticoresene http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/10420/SLM3196} -Sealing the rosette rabbett with some untinted resin before filling with mastic and placing the squares, in this case paua abalone. I have a feeling this one will be very good advice. -Making a glue filler with thick hide glue and a (vegetable) pigment or wood dust. I have done this often in the past, it's very workable and hard, does not shrink, takes finish and scraping well and is easily prepared. Only one question: is oil of turpentine the same as turpentine as one would buy as paint solvent, in other words thin consistency and volatile, or oil consistency? [I'm making two Juan Pages six course guitars with all the decor in koa (quite anachronistic, but beautiful). Very large body, lovely shape, long string length, a great model.] Clive Titmuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.earlymusicstudio.com early music downloads and cd's -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --