Hendrix's 'Voodoo Chile' was a wheeze, it's those chord 'shapes' ya know, just the Wah wah I can't handle. ( Big Grin )
NW -----Original Message----- From: gary digman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 July 2007 13:49 To: lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute is hard (was: mics arrived) I find Terzi quite challenging. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 11:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute is hard (was: mics arrived) > It's all relative. > I just think that the demands made on a professional lute player, and > by that I mean someone who only plays concerts, > no teaching, no job, etc--just concerts-- are less than a person in > the same position on piano, organ, violin, cello, etc. > > For example, there are no lute pieces remotely comparable in > difficulty to the transcendental etudes. Not to mention extended > techniques, which are commonplace on the recorder. > > Personally, I find renaissance music just as difficult or more > difficult than baroque music, and here I am speaking about not only > the big pieces that are rarely if ever played, such as the Francecso > "Song of the Birds," but also the high level ornaments in renaissance > treatises that are routinely played by recorder and viol players--and > especially cornetto players--but rarely used on the lute. These > ornaments are I think comparable in difficulty to Weiss, though > vastly different in style. > Obviously the repertory is worlds apart, and in renaissance music the > challenge is what is *not* written, just as it is in basso continuo. > > Another point of comparison is that it would be unacceptable even at > the conservatory level to slow down the difficult bits, whereas this > is often the case in renaissance and baroque performance--even in > recordings. I also feel that lute music is meant to be more > accessible, and that in Weiss and in the professional level ornaments > of Ganassi, Bassano,etc, we see a degree of separation from that. > > I'm not saying that there are no lute pieces that are challenging, > I'm just saying in all honesty > I personally would have to work harder to have the equivalent > income and opportunities on the piano. Maybe it shouldn't be that > way...maybe I'm lucky it is. > > > dt > > > that's"At 05:26 PM 7/6/2007, you wrote: > >Especially late Weiss. A piece of cake. > > > >ed > > > >At 07:38 PM 7/6/2007 -0400, Roman Turovsky wrote: > > >Especially baroque. > > >RT > > > > > >From: "David Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > >I really don't think the lute is particularly difficult.... :) > > > > dt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 07:00 AM 7/6/2007, you wrote: > > > >>Lutes and guitars _are_ difficult instruments. Guitar pupil of mine of > > > >>about > > > >>12, doing well after three years of lessons, enjoying it and studying > > > >>regulary at home (!), performed his piece on this year's > > pupils' night. He > > > >>really did well, no obvious mistakes, played through the whole piece > > > >>without > > > >>stopping, it was musical, he had some tone and volume. Afterward his > > > >>mother > > > >>comes up to me: "Is that all?" She just started on piano and was > > > >>disappointed with her son's result, as she's already doing much better > > > >>after > > > >>the few lessons she's had. No wonder, try playing the opening of Fuer > > > >>Elise > > > >>without piano lessons, my bet is you'll do fine. Try to do the same on a > > > >>guitar, my bet is that it'll take several years to come anywhere near the > > > >>percieved perfection and easy of your first try on piano. A piano is, in > > > >>the > > > >>first stages, an on-off instrument, whereas on a guitar you'll find a > > > >>miriad > > > >>of near hits before the tone is even acceptable. A lute is even harder to > > > >>play with its double strings, lower string tension and akward shape. > > > >> > > > >>Of course, piano music will be much more complicated for the advanced > > > >>student, so by that time it's a matter of different areas of difficulty. > > > >>And, obviously, the real test of mastering an instrument is being able to > > > >>express yourself musically on it, not to play the difficult pieces > > > >>technically well, but that's not the argument here. > > > >> > > > >>David - cannot play beyond the opening phrase of Fuer Elise on piano > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>**************************** > > > >>David van Ooijen > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>www.davidvanooijen.nl > > > >>**************************** > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>To get on or off this list see list information at > > > >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Need personalized email and website? 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