>From what I've read (on boingboing.net, among others), the record companies
would have settled with her for much less. She refused, and insisted on
going to court, so they went for the jugular and largely succeeded. I
suspect that they were trying to make an example of her to discourage others
from contesting the issue in court.

I think there is some effort to raise funds to help her cover the judgment,
but I don't know how successful it has been. There's probably more in the
boingboing.net archives if you are interested.

(FYI, Boingboing.net is Cory Doctorow's rather quirky blog, and DRM is one
of his hobbyhorses, along with unicorns, knitted versions of internal
organs, and a host of others:-)

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 2:10 PM
To: Arthur Ness; Caroline Usher; lutenet
Subject: [LUTE] Re: )Re: Lute iconographic project - a proposal]

Thanks for pointing this out, Art.  As you know, I happen to live in Duluth 
(Minnesota, not Georgia), as does Dan Larson.

As I am a lutenist who does happen to have recordings, it bothers me when 
my recordings are copied without consent.  But, in this particular case, it 
was tried in federal court in Duluth, and if I recall, the defendant 
resides in Brainerd, which is about 100 miles from Duluth.  The verdict 
happened about 3 weeks ago.  The young lady who was found guilty is a 
single mother with 2 young children, and she earns $30,000 annually.  She 
will never be in a position to pay off this hefty fine.  If my 
understanding is correct, she shared popular song downloads, ripping off 
the record companies.

I really feel sorry for her, as although she is guilty, in my opinion, the 
punishment exceeds by far the nature of her crime.  In our times, it seems 
to me that individual people who are plaintiffs in civil cases quite often 
have their cases thrown out of court, even when they have a legitimate 
case.  On the other hand, if the plaintiff(s) are large corporations,  the 
courts seem to "beat up" the little guys (gals).

Money talks.

ed





At 04:25 PM 11/4/2007 -0500, Arthur Ness wrote:
>They've been cracking down laterly. And I think we can
>expect more as the industry flexes its muscles. One
>woman from Duluth was fined $220,000 for copyright infringement,
>just a few days ago (she could have been fined three
>million dollars, according to news reports).
>
>http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071004233021.itudt24b&show_ar<p><p>
<p>http://www.breitbart.com
>
>Here's the unfortunate results of Universal Editions
>cease and desist threat. It's possible there will be NO
>IMSLP in the future.  The NEC student has apparently
>given up in frustration.
>
> From MLA-List
>>As I am sure a number of you on this list know
>>already, IMSLP (www.imslp.org) is now the largest site
>>of downloadable public domain scores available on the
>>internet, with more than 15,000 scores, 9000 titles
>>and 1000 composers.
>>
>>Unfortunately, the project has grown so large that the
>>site's owner (a music student at New England
>>Conservatory) can no longer afford the great amount of
>>time and expense required to run this site. We are
>>therefore looking for universty sponsors - preferably
>>a music library - to host both the Canadian and United
>>States versions of the site, with possible alternative
>>mirrors located in the EU and Asia.
>>
>>This has been partially precipitated by a recent
>>threat of litigation on the part of Universal Edition
>>of Vienna Austria, who apparently wishes to enforce EU
>>copyright laws in Canada and the USA. Please direct
>>any inquiries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>The site will be taken down for the next
>>several days for maintenence and to remove certain
>>titles in order to comply with demands in the Cease
>>and Desist letter from UE's lawyers until volunteer
>>attorneys at the Canadian Internet Policy and Public
>>Interest Clinic of the University of Ottawa Law School
>>can prepare an adequate response to the legal
>>intimidation tactics employed by UE.
>
>==AJN
>Boston, Mass.
>This week's free download:
>Lalo Symphonie espagnole
>Go to my web page:
>http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/
>For some free scores, go to:
>http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/arthurjnesslutescores/
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Usher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "lutenet" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:23 PM
>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute iconographic project - a
>proposal]
>
>
>>There is a long-standing effort to do for musical
>>iconography what RILM
>>and RIMM do for musicology and music manuscripts,
>>respectively:
>>http://web.gc.cuny.edu/rcmi/index.htm
>>
>>They don't seem to be very web-oriented.  Possibly
>>they are concerned
>>about copyright issues in putting their images online
>>(a 400-year-old
>>work of art is in the public domain, but the museum
>>slide or
>>reproduction in a published volume is not.)
>>
>>They tried to develop a cataloguing system for images
>>of musical
>>instruments.  Unfortunately they kept revising the
>>rules as they went
>>along and discovered that the [1-page] [10-page]
>>[25-page] rule sets
>>were inadequate.  I had some correspondence with them
>>a couple of
>>decades ago, which broke down because they wanted a
>>set of clearly
>>distinguished types of lute. each with its own
>>distinct name.  I kept
>>trying to explain that the lute family was not
>>standardized and that you
>>would need to specify, insofar as possible, the number
>>of strings,
>>number of nuts/pegboxes, etc.  They would write back
>>and say, "Yes, but
>>we need /one name/ for each type."  They didn't get
>>that the lute is
>>polymorphously perverse.
>>
>>I also wrote my master's thesis for the School of
>>Information and
>>Library Science at UNC on the history of their
>>cataloguing rules.  Short
>>summary:  They shoulda asked a librarian.
>>Caroline
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute iconographic project - a
>>proposal
>>Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:59:18 +0100
>>From: G. Crona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>CC: Susanne Herre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>
>>Good idea Susanne!
>>
>>It would be most convenient to have a site where as
>>much as possible of the
>>iconography could be found. Well catalogisized and in
>>both tumbnails and
>>bigger versions. A sort of mini Wikipedia like, where
>>we could go in and add
>>information if available. I believe Alfonso reads the
>>list, perhaps he has
>>some ideas of how to go about to do this?
>>
>>B.R.
>>G.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Susanne Herre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:25 PM
>>Subject: [LUTE] Lute iconographic project - a proposal
>>
>>
>>>Dear all,
>>>
>>>I liked very much the website of Alfonso Marin about
>>>the Lute iconography.
>>>Thank you very much for this work!
>>>
>>>Woulnd't it be good if this could get a more official
>>>character und could
>>>be enlarged by the help of us all (I guess nearly
>>>every body has digital
>>>photographs of lute angels, pictures, instruments in
>>>museums a.s.o. which
>>>would be interesting for everyone and which we could
>>>send to Alfonso
>>>Marin)?
>>>
>>>Then it would be helpful if the pictures could be
>>>organized in groups,
>>>e.g. 1) paintings, several periods of time 2)
>>>sculptures 3) instruments in
>>>museums (different types a.s.o.)
>>>
>>>The information could also be added by everyone.
>>>
>>>I think the medium "Internet" is really good to
>>>combine information, to
>>>share with many people. It could be a really good
>>>basis for research.
>>>
>>>What do you think about this idea?
>>>
>>>
>>>All the best,
>>>
>>>Susanne
>>>--
>>>
>>>To get on or off this list see list information at
>>>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>
>
>
>
>
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