Good idea, but no, absolutely unlikely. They were documented to be in storage, and were removed for observation in 1907, when a "Heckel" looked at them, and put back into storage in the castle..
ed .At 01:57 PM 2/6/2008 +0000, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > Thank you for this. > >Just a thought, but the marks on the belly over and above the rose sound >a bit like the sort of marks left by a strumming guitarist. Could it have >been used as a 'Wandervogel' lute/guitar in the early20th century? I >realise it's got many more than 6 courses but I presume they might not >have felt the need to string them all if it was just, say, a son of the >house having a strum on the old lute he found in the >attic...................... > >MH > > >Edward Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear ones, > >I have an interesting story. > >Dan Larson and I just returned from the National Museum of Music, in South >Dakota. It was an absolutely fantastic experience. They have many, many >lutes by Harton, Diefenbrouchar, Sellas, Edlinger. They also have guitars >by Stradivarius, Sellas and Voboam. Many violins by Stradivarius, Ganeri, >Amati, etc. It was unbelievable. > >The museum let us have full access to the Edlingers! We examined them for >about 10 hours, and I got to hold them in the playing position, etc. They >have been examined in the 1970's by Lundberg and others. One is 76 cm >mensur, the other is 81 or 82 cm, and they were perhaps originally by >Tieffenbrucker, or perhaps a Bolognese maker. Later, they were converted >to 13 course baroque lutes by Thomas Edlinger; the longer instrument in >1724, the shorter one in 1728. The 76 cm is flat back in 11 ribs of bird's >eye maple, the 82 cm is multi ribbed yew. > >What really startled me was the 76 cm lute. It is documented that these >lutes had been in a Czeck castle for hundreds of years. It appeared to me >that 2, or 3 different players used this lute. It showed heavy usage, so >it was more than likely played at a professional level. One player played >near the bridge, due to smudge & dirt marks from the fingers, as well as >the thumb. These marks were wide, and seemingly from finger marks. One >player played close to the rose , and used a long nail, as there are >multiple thin scrape marks (perhaps hundreds of these marks), from a long >right hand nail. That player even played in front of the rose, towards the >neck, on all the diapason courses! It tells me that on this particular >instrument, there were more than one player using very different >techniques. As well, they played a technique with the thumb pointed >towards the rose, as the old paintings show, but _NOT_ by the bridge. > >The longer lute in yew showed patterns and evidence of it being played very >close to the bridge. The little area at the treble end of the bridge was >worn down from overuse of the pinky being planted there. > >It seems that these lutes, although in possession by the same family in the >same castle, are similar in that they are both Edlinger conversions to 13 >course baroque lutes with bass riders. They do appear to have had >dissimilar techniques and player positions, as evidenced by the wear on the >sound boards, suggesting that the same player did not play the 2 >instruments, and the shorter one had at least 2 different players. > >All in all, in was a humbling experience, to examine these masterpieces, so >close up, and to hold them in playing position. The marks I mentioned on >the shorter instrument do not show up well on photography, but are very >open & obvious to the naked eye. > >ed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Edward Martin >2817 East 2nd Street >Duluth, Minnesota 55812 >e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >voice: (218) 728-1202 > > > > > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > >Sent from ><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mailuk/taglines/isp/control/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51949/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html>Yahoo! > >- a smarter inbox. >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: 2/5/2008 >8:57 PM Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202
