On Sun, Dec 21, 2008, Rob Dorsey <r...@dorseymail.com> said:

>    1.  We have no idea what historical musical presentation sounded like.
>    We can only infer from the notations on the tablature and the style of
>    the instruments along with basically anecdotal comments in extant
>    writings. 

All true, but, we have our own ears, and they too must be convinced; IMHO
we need to explore the music and see what can be done with it on
reasonable approximations of the instruments.  After several decades of
exploration we have numerous soloists and ensembles who have done this,
some of them are making most excellent and enjoyable music; the ultimate
test of any makers work.

And, we do have at least one indication that a particular makers work was
generally thought most excellent by his contemporarys and successors, that
of Laux Maler; we can (have, and will) look to his surviving instruments
as works to be studied.

>    2. It is very possible that the  extant instruments we so arduously
>    attempt to replicate were dogs and that's why they exist. 

including the howling-dog headed NMM 13500 cittern recently bought at
auction :-)

Nobody played
>    them. They  have spent their lives in cases in closets. The favorite
>    playable instruments, many recycled from earlier lutes - 10 course
>    renaissance lutes turned into 11 and 13 course baroque instruments for
>    example - had hard  playing lives and we can infer - that word again -
>    from art that they hung on the wall and were treated quite casually. 

Just as books were offered sans bindings, I suspect instruments were often
sold in a choice of cases (including none); modern makers are disinclined
to spend working time making mere cases, why should period luthiers have
thought any less practically?

>    3.  I too cannot believe that renaissance or baroque builders would not
>    avail themselves of modern available woods or glues.

Woods yes, but glues, well, Yes, there are alternatives with special
properties that make them reasonable in certain uses (ACC/Superglue for
securing fine cracks for example).  Todays apprentice maker brings a
cavalier attitude towards the choice of glue to his work.  There are
reasons for prefering certain glues over others on each of several joints
in our work.

The one thing we do know, it is hard to go wrong by choosing hide glue; it
was the generally used glue historically.  Yes, there was also fish glue,
casein glue, shellac, gum arabic, pitch and other adhesives; but the
ubiquitous pot of hide glue was always in the corner ready for use, it was
the casual glue historically.

>we have no hard evidence of how fast or with what
>    inflections it was played, we latch onto the only concrete thing we
>    can. We try to replicate instruments extant in museums and collections.
>    Then we take the written music we have - a wonderfully rich corpus
>    indeed I must admit - read the performance notes and inflection
>    markings, try to interpret them, and play in what we believe to be the
>    style of the period. If we had a time machine, we might go back and
>    embarrass ourselves mightily.
> 
> 
> 
>    Or, we can build lutes of stable and beautiful woods not available to
>    the ancients, put together with glues and adhesives who's technology
>    was not even envisioned and strung with state of the art strings from
>    the 21st century. These instruments will last much longer, maintain
>    their appearance much  longer and, using that same written music and
>    tab, produce sounds that will please the contemporary ear. People like
>    the sound, buy the CDs, tell their friends, get you on a radio spot,
>    the whole viral modern publicist path.
> 
> 
> 
>    So, for myself, I reject lute building as a study in dogma. I build to
>    play, to last and to please. So far so good.
> 
> 
> 
>    Rob Dorsey
> 
>    [1]http://LuteCraft.com
> 
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>    1. http://LuteCraft.com/
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Dana Emery



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