What would be really cool is to have the specialists each do one, like have Heringman do the "tips up" and so on. dt
At 08:23 PM 7/31/2009, you wrote: >David, > >If you ever wanted to make an instructional video demonstrating all >five techniques, it would be a great one. > >Stephen > >----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tayler" <vidan...@sbcglobal.net> >To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:06 PM >Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always? > > >>I think there really is no thumb under and over. >> >>There are however >> >>Thumb "in"--the thumb is inside the hand'' NB: just as it was >>called back then >>Thumb "in tips up" the finger tips are higher >>Thumb "out & stretched"--thumb must be like a bow NB specifically >>described historically >>Thumb "out"--not like a bow, more relaxed >>Thumb "middle"--this is "over" in the sense that it is directly over >>the first finger, however, it would be confusing to term it this way. >> >>Obviously, there are a thousand variations on these, but this is a >>good starting point. >>To just start at "over" and "under" will just create technique >>problems becuase you may get stuck or wobble between different positions. >>Each of these produces a very distinctive and different sound. >>Also, because the historical positions are not accurately described, >>they have fallen out of use. >>I use all five of these depending on the instrument and the repertory. >> >>dt >> >> >>At 07:09 AM 7/31/2009, you wrote: >>>On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:56 PM, <nedma...@aol.com> wrote: >>> > when the index finger strikes the string, it ends its >>> > =A0 stroke under and behind the thumb, before returning to its starting >>> > =A0 position in front of the thumb. >>> >>>There are many ways of looking at it. Some suggestions, others will >>>give more, so take your pick. >>> >>>A relaxed hand has thumb under index. Try without a lute. Aim for a >>>relaxed hand when playing. >>> >>>Place thumb between index and middle finger. (Yes, fig-sign.) Unbend >>>fingers, don't overdo the strechting, remember to relax. Good lute >>>playing hand. >>> >>>Do the plucking movement with your under-arm, bit of wrist, very litle >>>bit of finger. So index-to-thumb position does change but little >>>during plucking. >>> >>>After plucking thumb, don't 'move it back' to starting position, but >>>let plucking motion (under-arm) for index take your hand and hence >>>thumb back to starting point. >>> >>>Play slowly, concentrate on relaxing and erradicating superfluous movements= >> >> >> >>To get on or off this list see list information at >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >