Dear Peter and all, Being one of the members of the French list who expressed his disapproval of Mr Y.'s "approach" , I would simply like to underline that I never said a word against the idea of using a subscription to help to realize a project, whatever this project may be : selling cds in advance for a slightluy smaller price seems a quite normal and acceptable solution. But I feel that asking potential buyers to pay 100 euros ( ca 150 $) for 1 CD is a bit too much, and that sort of sponsorship is altogether a quite different business. True, Mace asked people to subscribe to his book for 12 shillings, if we make a quick conversion in today's money we get approximately 75 euros (or 112$) - see http://tinyurl.com/ykkdpds for money conversions - but Musick's Monument was a sturdy 272 pages book which is still an authority on the question it deals with, today as in 1676 when it was published. I have already paid that sort of money and more for long-winded academic works or monumental editions, but for a compact disc...??? I don't want to diminish Mr Y's - formerly known as Serdoura's - merit but if I wanted to get that sort of sponsor money for a cd I would NOT advertise that on the internet, a matter of decency and self respect, I suppose... I have never heard that any of our "top lutes" had resorted to that stratagem to release a cd, or have I missed something ? Just a reminder : French people on the dole, with no regular income, get some 450 euros per month for a living... So I disagree with publicizing that sort of proposition : 100 for 1 CD... Where is the "abuse" really ?
All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier ================================= == En réponse au message du 23-10-2009, 11:49:22 == > > Ooh dear, the members of the French lute list don't like this > approach AT ALL and have been heaping abuse on Mr Y. To me, it > seems more in the spirit of Thomas Mace, who lists several hundred > supporters (at 12 shillings each) of Musick's Monument, and rewards > them with A Short Epistle of Thankfulness To all my Noble > Subscribers (".. But You, Renowned Worthies, worthy of Renown, You > are the Men, High Jupiter will own..."). > > Intriguing to see Isaac Newton among Mace's subscribers. Was he known > to have any interest in the lute? > > P > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Miguel Yisrael <[1]miguelyisr...@gmail.com> > Date: 2009/10/20 > Subject: 1 CD "The Court of Bayreuth" Subscription - Miguel Yisrael, > baroque lute > To: > Miguel Yisrael recorded a 2nd solo CD entitled "The Court of Bayreuth", > with music from German 18th century lute music. To be released by > December the 1st 2009. > This project still needs an extra 1400 to be concluded! > We created a - 100 for 1 CD - subscription in order to finalize this > project, by the end of November. > If you can help us, please go to this link :: > [2]http://www.miguelyisrael.com > We warmly thank you for your contribution! > _______________________________________________________________________ > _____________________________________ > Miguel Yisrael a enregistre un nouveau CD solo intitule "The Court of > Bayreuth", dedie `a la musique baroque allemande du XVIIIe siecle. > Sortie prevue pour le 1er Decembre 2009. > Ce projet a encore besoin de 1400 pour etre acheve! > Nous avons cree une suscription - 100 pour 1 CD - en vue de finaliser > ce projet. Si vous voulez nous aider, s'il vous plait allez sur ce > lien: [3]http://www.miguelyisrael.com > Nous vous remercions chaleureusement pour l'aide que vous apportes `a > ce projet! > -- > Peter Martin > Belle Serre > La Caulie > 81100 Castres > France > tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 > mob: 0044 7971 232614 > e: [4]peter.l...@gmail.com > [5]www.silvius.co.uk > > -- > Peter Martin > Belle Serre > La Caulie > 81100 Castres > France > tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 > mob: 0044 7971 232614 > e: [6]peter.l...@gmail.com > [7]www.silvius.co.uk > -- > >References > > 1. mailto:miguelyisr...@gmail.com > 2. http://www.miguelyisrael.com/ > 3. http://www.miguelyisrael.com/ > 4. mailto:peter.l...@gmail.com > 5. http://www.silvius.co.uk/ > 6. mailto:peter.l...@gmail.com > 7. http://www.silvius.co.uk/ > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. >Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > ========================================