Steve, yes, it's true, his 6th course is A, and the standard renaissance tuning in A is, 1st to 6th courses, a' e' b g d A. As I said, this is standard renaissance tuning in A, not Flat Tuning.
That's what confused me, I think. Wemyss is _not_ renaissance. Wemyss makes use of three different tunings which slightly differ from each other. First, there's the Flat Tuning (f' d' bb g d A). The second tuning is called Flat Save The 3rd Sharp (f' d' b g d A), the third is what Chadwick correctly shows, the Sharp Tuning (f#' d' b g d A). Straloch requires renissance tuning, Wemyss requires transitional baroque tunings. And for the record, what's called Flat Tuning in Balcarres (for the lion's share of pieces in it) actually is standard D minor tuning. There are seven pieces in Balcarres, though, that require sharp tuning, and 2 that require harp tuning (g' d' b g d A). Mathias "Steven Amazeen" <blueh...@hotmail.com> schrieb: > Hi Mathias, > I believe that the descriptions of the tunings are for A lute rather > than > the typical G. Apparently the reason for this is that it puts the > music in > a very good tuning for the harp. There is a doubled note used in > gaelic > harp tuning referred to as the "NeCawlee" in the tuning chart. > Naturally > this wouldn't apply to the lute, however it can make a difference to > the > execution of the music on the harp. Interestingly there is no > reference to > the 8th course although it is clearly used in the Straloch MS. > "Cronan" > refers to the lowest note of the scale on many harps (a nominal G or > Gamma > UT). According to Mr. Chadwick strings lower in pitch than cronan were > variably tuned. > The Straloch MS appears to be in renaissance tuning, and I have not > seen the > Wemyss MS so I am unsure why Mr. Chadwick refers to this tuning as the > "Flat > Tuning". > Overall the effort seems to be to relate the tablature to the most > common > tuning of the Gaelic harp. > Steve > (who plays much more harp than lute these days) > -------------------------------------------------- > From: ""Mathias Roesel"" <[1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:44 AM > To: <[2]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Looking for ... > > I was a bit puzzled, though, by what he describes as tuning required > in > > Straloch: [3]http://www.earlygaelicharp.info/sources/lute.htm > Straloch is > > renaissance tuning, no? > > > > Mathias > > > > "wolfgang wiehe" <[4]wie-w...@gmx.de> schrieb: > >> Thanks Val for sharing the "facsimile". I found this: > >> [5]http://www.earlygaelicharp.info/sources/straloch.htm > >> greetings > >> wolfgang > >> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > >> > Datum: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:54:03 +0100 > >> > Von: "Valery Sauvage" <[6]sauvag...@orange.fr> > >> > An: "\'Stephen Fryer\'" <[7]sjfr...@telus.net>, "\'Eugene C. Braig > IV\'" > >> > <[8]brai...@osu.edu> > >> > CC: "\'Lute Net\'" <[9]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> > >> > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Looking for ... > >> > >> > Here is a link to a pdf of the Straloch (a copy was given to me by > a > >> > lutenist in 1985... so as it is not published, enjoy !) > >> > [10]http://www.mediafire.com/?mzjndtjq2yj > >> > About differences of the piece we were talking about, look for "A > >> > daunce" > >> > page 16, other version of the same tune. > >> > Valery > >> > > >> > -----Message d'origine----- > >> > De : [11]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu > [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la > >> > part > >> > de Stephen Fryer > >> > Envoye : mardi 5 janvier 2010 01:27 > >> > A : Eugene C. Braig IV > >> > Cc : 'Lute Net' > >> > Objet : [LUTE] Re: Looking for ... > >> > > >> > > >> > Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: > >> > > I'm not certain, but I believe it is contained in this > publication: > >> > > [12]http://openlibrary.org/b/OL11085910M/Mel_Bay_Scottish_Lute > >> > > > >> > > I can check my own copy when home. > >> > > >> > Thanks Eugene. Last time I'd looked (a couple of years ago after > >> > taking > >> > Ronn's class on Scottish Lute) it was out of print and I couldn't > find > >> > a > >> > copy. I looks like it is available again so I'll get a copy (I > already > >> > have volume 2). Not only that but you can preview it at > Amazon.com. > >> > > >> > Interestingly there seem to be some differences (besides Ronn's > >> > variations) between this publication and what Valerie sent. > >> > > >> > Stephen Fryer > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > [13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de > 2. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > 3. http://www.earlygaelicharp.info/sources/lute.htm > 4. mailto:wie-w...@gmx.de > 5. http://www.earlygaelicharp.info/sources/straloch.htm > 6. mailto:sauvag...@orange.fr > 7. mailto:sjfr...@telus.net > 8. mailto:brai...@osu.edu > 9. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > 10. http://www.mediafire.com/?mzjndtjq2yj > 11. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu > 12. http://openlibrary.org/b/OL11085910M/Mel_Bay_Scottish_Lute > 13. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- Viele Grüße Mathias Rösel http://mathiasroesel.livejournal.com http://www.myspace.com/mathiasroesel
