The suggestion of arpeggiating the toccata seconda in two different ways is lifted straight from Nigel North's book (1987). I have tried playing it the second way ("take care always to arpeggiate in order from bass to treble") but found it too confusing since the pattern changes several times during the piece. So I always play it the first way.
As for the rest stroke, like you I can see that it's possible, but I've never wanted to do it. Too many digits anchored at the same time.... All best Peter On 28 February 2010 22:38, Martin Eastwell <[1]eastwe...@mac.com> wrote: Hi! Looking through Francesca Torelli's excellent theorbo tutor (published by Ut Orpheus Edizioni), I was a little surprised by two of her recommendations for right hand arpeggiation. She explains (p 23)the technique in which 4 note arpeggios, for example, are played p i m i, with the index finger playing the highest note of the chord last, on the third course. So the first bar of Kapsberger's Toccata Seconda Arpeggiata becomes... ----------- |------------- ----------- |------------- ---0------- |-0------------ repeated 4 times ---3------- |----------3--- ---3------- |----3--------- ---2------- |-------2------ ./. p i m i However, she suggests that once you have played the second note, you should rest the index finger on the third course ready to play the final note of the 4 note pattern. I don't play this way myself (though I can make it work) and wonder if other people do. Also, if there is any mention of this "rest stroke" technique in the original sources. On p 24, she prints the above mentioned Toccata, with the recommendation that the student should vary the RH fingering patterns so as to ensure that all the notes in each chord are played in ascending order. The trouble with this recommendation is that very often in the piece, the notes on the first and third courses have a melodic function as well as an harmonic one. The pattern in bar 6, for example, is notated as follows; -------- ---------------- ---2---- which could be realised either as ---2------------ or as -------- ---------------- ---0---- ------------0--- ---3---- ------3--------- ---3---- ---------3------ ./. p i m i ------------------ -----2------------ ------------------ if you follow Torelli's suggestion -----------0------ --------3--------- --------------3-- p m i m Or perhaps-p i i m ? The result is that the melodic move Bb-A is reversed. She admits that "This technique may seem complex and difficult in the beginning..." ! To my ear, it also alters the piece significantly, in this bar and a number of other places. What do people think? I wonder if anyone can think of passages like this in the Italian theorbo repertory where the arpeggiation is written out in full, thus giving us a hint? Best wishes martin -- References 1. mailto:eastwe...@mac.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html