I like my simple lute pegs, I like the simple non-mechanized "1 to 1 tuning-design" of old instruments. perhaps modern guitar-tuning-mechanics are a result of 19th century perfection... w.
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:17:23 -0400 > Von: Edward Mast <nedma...@aol.com> > An: Edward Martin <e...@gamutstrings.com> > CC: howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com>, "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" > <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: geared pegs and Dan Larson\'s lute > It seems to me that another reason - beyond the weight of guitar-type > machine tuners - for not using them on lutes would be the space they require. > I think they would require that the tuners be more widely spaced and the > peg box consequently much longer. Though more expensive, the geared pegs > are far more practical, I think. > > Ned > On Jun 22, 2010, at 5:00 AM, Edward Martin wrote: > > > I do not know the exact weight, but the 8-course lute has 15 pegs, or > > should I say, gears. The lute's neck felt as though it was light, > > with absolutely no noticeable added weight. > > > > > > At 12:33 AM 6/22/2010, howard posner wrote: > >> Weight is a major issue, especially when you're putting 24 of > >> something on one end of your instrument. So the increased weight of > >> a standard machine tuning head is usually cited as the reason for > >> not using them on lutes, which are much lighter than 19th-century > >> guitars. I have never personally weighed machine heads and pegs, so > >> I can't say how significant the added weight would actually be. > >> > >> On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: > >> > >>> The almost universal application of pegs to lutes seems to have come > about > >>> because 1) historic lutes were no longer in widespread use as geared > tuners > >>> proliferated and 2) when the early music movement resurrected lutes, > geared > >>> tuners were deliberately excluded to make deference to historic > practices. > >>> > >>> So, other than replacing pegs without the necessity to substantially > modify > >>> existing instruments, how are such tuners as applied to new > instruments any > >>> more useful than those already widely used and cheaply available? Is > the > >>> appeal strictly in the rather superficial appearance of not being > geared? > >>> > >>> I am not at all opposed to geared tuners--using them on guitars from > >>> original 19th-c. pieces to quite modern--but I don't understand the > appeal > >>> of so much expense on tuners simply for something that doesn't "look" > >>> geared. I'd just as soon deal with temperamental friction > >> pegs. After all, > >>> many of us are willing to deal with the temperamental issues of at > least > >>> partial stringing in gut when more stable materials are more cheaply > >>> available. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To get on or off this list see list information at > >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > Edward Martin > > 2817 East 2nd Street > > Duluth, Minnesota 55812 > > e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com > > voice: (218) 728-1202 > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name > > http://www.myspace.com/edslute > > > > > > > >
