Ah, makes good sense.  Have you tried this with gimped or loaded strings,
Guy?

Eugene



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guy Smith [mailto:guy_m_sm...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:06 PM
> To: 'Eugene C. Braig IV'; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: tying two strings of different thickness together?
> 
> A trick I learned from Grant Tomlinson (for tying fret knots, but the
> principle is the same), is to work the string back and forth over the
> length
> that will be part of the knot. That softens up the gut and makes it easier
> to tie a tight knot. It probably reduces the strength a bit, but not
> enough
> to matter.
> 
> Guy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> Behalf
> Of Eugene C. Braig IV
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:56 AM
> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: tying two strings of different thickness together?
> 
> The one problem I have with fishing knots that involve many twists (like
> the
> blood knot or uni-uni knot) on gut is that the stiffness of gut imparts
> difficulty in cinching knots.  Depending upon how pliable your strings
> are,
> this can even be pretty prohibitive.  Most fishing knots in use now were
> designed around nylon monofilaments, however, and so work great for that
> material or for fluorocarbon, I suspect even for Nylgut.
> 
> For joining lines of substantially different diameter, the surgeon's knot
> is
> often a better choice and, with far fewer twists, I find it a little more
> gut-friendly.  The surgeon's knot is a little square-not like in
> appearance,
> but only a little.
> 
> Best,
> Eugene
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> > Behalf Of Guy Smith
> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:19 AM
> > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; 'Anthony Hind'
> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: tying two strings of different thickness together?
> >
> > I use a grapevine knot. I learned that in my rock-climbing days as a
> > bombproof way to tie into a rope. Probably overkill, but if it can hold
> a
> > twenty foot leader fall, it should be able to handle a lute string:-)
> >
> > FWIW, the traditional knot for joining two lengths of fishing line is a
> > blood knot, which would be another possibility. I tend to avoid square
> > knots. They can easily be turned into a cats paw knot, which isn't
> secure
> > at
> > all.
> >
> > Here's a good reference for all sorts of knots:
> >
> > http://www.layhands.com/Knots/Knots_KnotsIndex.htm
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Martyn Hodgson
> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 8:05 AM
> > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Anthony Hind
> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: tying two strings of different thickness together?
> >
> >     I use a reef knot - but secured with a drop of super glue....
> >    --- On Mon, 22/11/10, Anthony Hind <agno3ph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >      From: Anthony Hind <agno3ph...@yahoo.com>
> >      Subject: [LUTE] tying two strings of different thickness together?
> >      To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> >      Date: Monday, 22 November, 2010, 15:28
> >
> >       Dear All
> >              I may need to lengthen a string which does not quite reach
> >    the
> >       peg, but goes well beyond the nut. I would like to attach it to a
> >       slightly thinner short piece of gut to reach the peg in question.
> I
> >       remember that Stephen Gottlieb had done that for several strings
> on
> >    my
> >       lute; but I can no longer remember the type of knot he used. Can
> >    anyone
> >       advise me, or tell me of a page where this knot is described.
> >       Regards
> >       Anthony
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