Nol, it was probably my tablature. ed
At 12:58 PM 1/3/2011, Bruno Fournier wrote: > Ed,A is that not the version you sent me years ago in Tab for Soprano > lute? > > A > > Bruno > > A > > Happy New year... > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Fabio Rizza <[1]fabio_ri...@alice.it> > wrote: > > Il 03/01/2011 18:15, [2]...@heartistrymusic.com ha scritto: > > I have heard many recordings of the guitar version with full > orchestra, and I havealso > performed the piece on guitar with full orchestra. A Guitars and > lutes were not designed for > this. A Even then I wanted a facsimile of the original, but was > unable to locate one. > A Now that I am dabbling in the lute world I would like to re-visit > this piece. > Questions: > A 1. Given the time period, would it be most historically accurate > to perform this on a baroque > lute in baroque tuning? A Or could one get by with an 8 course > renaissance instrument? > > Vivaldi uses the word "leuto" Vivaldi to indicate an instrument able > to realize the continuo. See, for example, his "Concerto per la > solennitA di san Lorenzo" RV 556. In my opinion (and in that of > Rossella Perrone, who wrote a detailed preface to my edition of > Vivaldi's works for lute and mandolin) that instrument was the > archlute, i.e. the Italian baroque lute. But I guess that Vivaldi > wouldn't mind if someone played it on the German baroque lute -- or > even on the mandora, as Pietro Prosser suggested a few years ago. > In her preface, Rossella Perrone writes: > "In writing almost certainly for the A<<leutoA>> that he knew, that > is, the lute in use in Italy or the archlute, Vivaldi left the > Bohemian patron or his lutist the task of adapting the part. In any > event, it is significant that the three compositions dedicated to > Wrtby, together with the concerto RV 540, can be played on both > types of instrument and the keys of the works (C major in RV 82, G > minor in RV 85, D major in RV 93 and D minor in RV 540) are > comfortable for the archlute and the lute in D minor alike. > "Moreover, in the three compositions dedicated to the Bohemian > count, considering the fact that the pieces were certainly destined > for a chamber group, the lute part, unlike the concerto RV 540, in > which the richer order of the score allows an explicit doubling of > the roles of the instruments (as support for the basses in the > ripieno and for the solista in the solos), is notated only in the > treble clef without employing the bass clef. Nevertheless, since the > lute part in score is always in the middle, between the violin and > the bass, with the exception of the Larghetto of RV 82 > (highlighting, with such an arrangement, > the derivation of the violin part from the A<<leutoA>> part), one > can put forward the hypothesis that the lutist of the period read > from his own line and the bass line at the same time, perhaps > playing both the melodic line as well as the basses for harmonic > support. > "Ever since the publication of these compositions, as we were > saying, the problem of the type of A<<leutoA>> employed by Vivaldi > has come up. The confusion arose because of Vivaldi's use of the > treble clef. However, from the autograph RV 540, where the notes in > the treble clef are written an octave higher and the basses on the > true notes, we learn that the parts of the three compositions > dedicated to Wrtby (all in G clef), were to be played by the > archlute an octave lower and not on a small lute with > a register that could go as high as D5". > > A 2. Would Vivaldi have written standard notation that a lutenist > would then have entabulated > according to the instrument in their possession at the time? > > I guess so. There are some examples of this "modus operandi" in the > lute literature of that time. There is an interesting article > written by Pietro Prosser (in Italian, sorry): > [3]http://riviste.paviauniversitypress.it/index.php/phi/article/view > /05-02-INT04/44 > > A 3. For correct volume and tonal balance, what would be the most > appropriate (and > historically correct) number of violins, etc.? String trio? A Two > per desk?... > > The Concerto RV 93 is scored for two violins, lute and "basso". > Best regards, > Fabio > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > >References > > 1. mailto:fabio_ri...@alice.it > 2. mailto:t...@heartistrymusic.com > 3. > http://riviste.paviauniversitypress.it/index.php/phi/article/view/05-02-INT04/44 > 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name http://www.myspace.com/edslute
