I must second RT's comment. Composing new music using baroque (or renaissance) rules and style, and using perhaps 19th and/or 20th century opinions, reductions and simplifications of the melodies and styles of some nation or ethnic group, really is not so common. So in a way there is a mixture of a "learned", perhaps even a "schoolmaster" way of taking the (baroque) composing rules; and on the other hand, a more or less nationalistic way of using the ditties and fancies people were/are singing and dancing, to create a "Nation", to create a sense of "us", who are not "them".
For example, when our Finnish national identity was created about at the second half of the 19th century, the musicians and poets collected lots of folk melodies, poems and songs, and "normalized" them to the common 19th century understanding of what is "good" and acceptable. No "sex, drugs and rock'n roll" there... Also the wilderness and swing of music was reduced to tiny, notated "folk" "melodies" that were nice starting points to the more or less Beethoven/Bach-oriented composers, who then composed their massive "works" out of these flattened and simplified reductions of what the the "folks" really had sung and played... I am afraid that "composing", writing out every nyance of pitch and rhythm, will always be something that never meets, what the "folks" did and do. And I think the "sex, drugs and rock'n roll" really was the case and will be the case in the real music of "fols". The poor and idealistic "composers" will try to emulate and copy that. But they'll always miss the train... I sincerely believe that in improvisation music will live and die! I am not good in improvisation, but the continuo playing is my tiny and happy part of that. Actually very important to me. But "composing" "ethnocentric" music sounds contradictory to me. And dear RT, this was not an insult, on the contrary: in writing this I was really serious. Arto On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:52:26 -0500, "Roman Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net> wrote: > Yes, but the ethnocentric retrocomposition is a different and a new thing! > RT > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Carlin" <na...@nancycarlinassociates.com> > To: "lute" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 1:49 PM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: YouTube - Marco Meloni > > >> There were a couple of other English bands who have done some >> interesting things >> Steel Eye Span recorded Gaudete be fore anyone else I can think of >> The band with the best name of all Giles Farnaby's Dream Band - a nice >> version of Kemp's Jig >> In a similar vein- but not so much early music Gryphon >> Nancy >> At 08:29 AM 1/22/2011, Sean Smith wrote: >> >> "There are also one German and one French-Canadian >> early music groups who have done a lot of arrangements >> of folk as early music." >> Add Shirley and Dolly Collins recording with Hogwood, Munrow, >> Skeapingx2 and Laird in the late '60s. >> sws >> On Jan 22, 2011, at 5:52 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: >> In fact, this is pretty rare. >> Aside from Paulo and myself I cam only think of one Swedish >> composer >> Petter Moeller >> who has done something of the sort. >> >> Nancy Carlin Associates >> P.O. Box 6499 >> Concord, CA 94524 USA >> phone 925/686-5800 fax 925/680-2582 >> web sites - [1]www.nancycarlinassociates.com >> [2]www.groundsanddivisions.info >> Representing: >> FROM WALES - Crasdant & Carreg Lafar, FROM ENGLAND - Jez Lowe & Jez >> Lowe & The Bad Pennies, and now representing EARLY MUSIC - The Venere >> Lute Quartet, The Good Pennyworths & Morrongiello & Young >> Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA >> web site - [3]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/ >> 2. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ >> 3. http://lutesocietyofamerica.org/ >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
