Dear Andreas and the List(-s),

your CH-BEa_123.pdf and B-Bc_FA_VI_10.pdf are really wonderful! I think this is the thus far most useful way of combining facsimile and musicological scholarship.

From the player's viewpoint (well just mine...) the important points are

- good enough photos of the original pages, so that you can also enlarge unclear places and can try to guess, what there is under the spot of ink... ;-), but no extremely huge amount of pixels are needed - good and clear analysis and listing of names, composers and concordances and also links to other mss. and books - comments of possible errors/misprints - these of course are more or less opinions, but educated opinions are always welcome

What is not important:

- modern staff notation (="piano tabulature") - often more harm than use - from player's viewpoint, again - if the original is legible, no modern lute tabulature is needed - in case of too much guessing, educated reconstruction is - on the other hand - very welcome

I am sure musicological needs will be different.

And I am still dear friend of beautiful books, too! :-)

Thanks and all the best,

Arto



On 02/02/11 00:31, Andreas Schlegel wrote:
Dear lute friends,

It's always the question what's the most useful manner for the research and for 
the musicians. In general, I mean it's the best to make a commented edition 
with concordances and explanations on the context and the book itself.
I'm preparing to publish the Swiss sources step by step. The next - when my book "The 
Lute in Europe 2" is finished and the edition of all pieces written by notator B of the 
Rhétorique is done - after CH-BEa HA 123 (see 
http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/DownloadD/files/CH-BEa_123.pdf) will be CH-Bu F.IX.53 ad 
CH-SAM FP/M 1&  2 which I already have payed or I took the photographs and got the 
permission to publish them for free on the net.

An other online facsimile I made together with François-Pierre Goy is here - 
for free:
http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/DownloadD/files/B-Bc_FA_VI_10.pdf
Compare the old facsimile (Editions Culture et Civilisation) and our new online 
facsimile: What's the more useful edition in your opinion?

I'm interested in comments.

Andreas

Am 01.02.2011 um 21:54 schrieb wikla:

Dear Denys&  copy to the List,

perhaps the digitalized computer readable facsimiles could be published
already before the analysed, commented and prettily printed (expensive? but
also valuable) books? More and more digital material is published by more
and more museums around Europe. I hope England will follow... Yep, I know,
it is about the funding, not the museums... But vote a government that will
fund the museums... ;-)

Arto


On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:37:13 -0000, "Denys Stephens"<denyssteph...@sky.com>
wrote:
Dear Arthur&  All,
Further to Chris Goodwin's comments reported below I am glad to be able
to
add
that preparatory work on the Lord Herbert Of Cherbury facsimile is at an
advanced stage and is going well. I would hesitate to predict a
completion
date -
as with all Lute Society publications the preparation is carried out by
dedicated individuals giving their time to the work involved, and
sometimes
there are unexpected interruptions. But it is definitely the next planned
Lute Society facsimile, and a publication date within the next year seems
entirely possible at the moment. When to publish it after the preparation
is
complete will be a committee decision, and as has already been said, the
Lute Society's ability to produce new facsimilies does depend on support
for the existing publications.

It's good to see Robert Spencer's name mentioned in the context of the
Cherbury manuscript. His vision of making lute manuscripts available
in facsimile is still a major inspiration for the Lute Society's work
in that field. We don't have specific plans beyond Cherbury, but I
very much hope that the series will be able to continue, ideally
until every English lute manuscript is in print. That will take
some time, but it's good to hold onto the vision.....

Best wishes,

Denys

Denys Stephens
General Editor of Music Editions
The Lute Society








-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf
Of A. J. Ness
Sent: 01 February 2011 15:08
To: simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk; Lute List
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

Here's a link to the Society's list of facsimiles, etc., in case there
are
other things that interest you. Dd 2.11 isn't listed yet:

http://www.lutesoc.co.uk/pages/catalogue

Some of us have had to wait for 30 years for the Lord Herbert facsimile.
Bob Spencer had it at the top of his list, but was unsuccessful in
getting
the library to release it for a facsimile. It would be at the top of my
list, too. It was quite a frustrating experience for him.  He would
mutter,
"We'll just have to wait until he [the librarian] retires."

Dd 2.11 is listed "in the pipeline":

http://www.lutesoc.co.uk/pages/pipeline
----- Original Message -----
From:<simon.lamb...@stfc.ac.uk>
To:<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:39 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Future facsimiles from the Lute Society


There have been some queries about the Lute Society's future plans for
publishing facsimiles, following the launch of Cambridge Dd.2.11.  Chris
Goodwin, the Secretary of the Society, tells me that the next on the
list
is Herbert of Cherbury, though Dd.2.11 will have to pay for itself first
-
which sounds like a good reason to go and buy a copy if you haven't yet
done so!

Simon Lambert
Oxford, England

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