Well - as you both already well know - the current level of scholarship
is so poor that the elder and younger Saint Jacques generally appear as
one.
But the real issue is that the real passion and merit of this music is
lost by such a generalist approach.
ythfo
Martyn
--- On Thu, 31/3/11, Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
From: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
To: "A. J. Ness" <arthurjn...@verizon.net>
Cc: "Lutelist" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Thursday, 31 March, 2011, 21:01
Don't even mention Grove - as far as the baroque guitar is concerned it
is full of errors.<sigh, sigh. sigh>
Monica
----- Original Message ----- From: "A. J. Ness"
<[1]arthurjn...@verizon.net>
To: "Monica Hall" <[2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
> That's what makes me angry about the Jacques de Saint-Luc article in
New Grove (first ed. and MGG 1963). Musica Rara has puibo. all the
Suittes dessus and bassus, andattributres them one by one to three
different composers named St.Luc.<sigh>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Hall"
<[3]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: "Monica Hall" <[4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
> Cc: "Lutelist" <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 3:23 PM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
>
>
>> Yes - the music is fun and I really enjoyed hearing the solo pieces
too - but liner notes are just nonsense. They have just made it all
up as a kind of concept to hang the recording on.
>>
>> Really it's irresponsible - because what they have said is now being
repeated as if it were true.
>>
>> What a world we live in.....
>>
>> Monica
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monica Hall"
<[6]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[7]brai...@osu.edu>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene C. Braig IV"
<[8]brai...@osu.edu>
>>> To: "'Lutelist'" <[9]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:12 PM
>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
>>>
>>>
>>>> I quite like that CD (especially the guitar solos that they opted
to record
>>>> as solos), but the liner notes do strike me as a bit "whimsical."
>>>>
>>>> Eugene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [10]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
[mailto:[11]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Monica Hall
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 3:10 PM
>>>>> To: Jean-Marie Poirier
>>>>> Cc: Lutelist
>>>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Foscarini Experience
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow - that was quick work. That must be the picture. But is
there any
>>>>> evidence that the lutenist is Foscarini?
>>>>>
>>>>> To be honest - when I first read the liner notes to the CD I
thought they
>>>>> were a work of fiction. But perhaps I am missing something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Monica
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[12]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>
>>>>> To: "Monica Hall" <[13]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Foscarini Experience
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Monica,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Would that be the picture you are looking for ?
>>>>> > If yes, it's just across the street, VAM ;-) !
>>>>> > Here's a link with details :
>>>>> >
[14]http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O18973/painting-the-ommeganck-in-
>>>>> brussels-on/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > All the best,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jean-Marie
>>>>> >
>>>>> > =================================
>>>>> >
>>>>> > == En reponse au message du 31-03-2011, 20:54:29 ==
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I came across this CD by the group Foscarini Experience
with the
>>>>> title
>>>>> >> "Bon voyage" some time ago. In the liner notes it
mentions an
>>>>> >> illustration which features Foscarini on a wagon playing the
lute
>>>>> >> together with a girl with a triangle and a violone player
which
>>>>> >> apparently dates from 1615 and is part of an illustration of
a >> feast
>>>>> >> held for the Archduchess Isabella Clara Eugenia, the wife of
the
>>>>> >> Archduke Albert.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Does anyone know anything about this illustration and
whether the
>>>>> >> lutenist is clearly identified as Foscarini. I have done a
bit >> of
>>>>> >> surfing the net but haven't found any trace of it.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Monica
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>To get on or off this list see list information at
>>>>> >>[15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ========================================
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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