My unedited dry acoustics direct version of La Montespan de Gallot (Barbe p. 47): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QIcMFuGRMU
Somehow I like "as is" versions and playing/player seen. I hope I do not have too much expressions in my face... Perhaps I should have more expressions in my playing, though... ;) Arto On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 08:51:04 -0400, Edward Mast <nedma...@aol.com> wrote: > "When you've seen one lute player hunched over his lute with a pained > expression on his face, you've seen the lot. But I agree it's interesting > to watch the hands at work, though that takes us into the realm of having > someone else to control the camera." > > I absolutely agree with the first part of this statement. I make the > effort to sit up straight when playing; looks better and is, I'm sure, more > conducive to easy breathing. Probably better for the back muscles, too. > But even so, when recording myself, I now show just my hands and the > instrument, and find this easy to do with the camera set on a tripod - no > other help needed to control the camera. > > Regarding concert hall sound, I often find the sound of recordings > presented here and on youTube - when NOT artificially enhanced - more > realistic than most commercial recordings. (Martin, your recorded sound > seems quite fine to me). But then, I don't find the concert hall a natural > setting for lute music. I know that this is a very subjective issue, and > many will disagree with me on it. > > -Ned > > On Apr 9, 2011, at 5:02 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: > >> Hi Stuart, >> >> My comments are below yours: >> >> On 08/04/2011 22:01, Stuart Walsh wrote: >>> Just to get things in perspective though, roughly how much are the gut >>> basses - e.g. the fourth - seventh courses? >> On this lute I had a plain gut 4th course, Larson pistoys on 5th and 6th, >> and a Larson gimped string on 7th. Dan's prices are on his website. I >> would expect the 7th course to last more or less forever and the 6th to >> last a very long time, the 5th less so because it is fingered so much, >> but because I had an octave on the 5th it is only one expensive string. >> >> I have been using Sofracob for the thinner strings, which were amazingly >> cheap (i.e. probably cheaper than nylon) as well as good. Sadly they >> went out of business last year, and most other suppliers seem to be much >> more expensive. >>> >>> I agree that it is interesting to see people actually playing. But >>> performance, I think, is yet another skill as well as actually playing >>> the music as musically as you are able. I suppose you could ignore the >>> performance aspect of performance (body language, composure, movement, >>> maybe eye contact with camera etc etc). But would you really wouldn't >>> want to ignore all that that any more than ignore the musical aspects of >>> the music (i.e.just stolidly sounding the notes)? >> When you've seen one lute player hunched over his lute with a pained >> expression on his face, you've seen the lot. But I agree it's >> interesting to watch the hands at work, though that takes us into the >> realm of having someone else to control the camera. >>> >>> Another problem is that more a more people are using recording devices >>> and adding a touch of reverb. I think this is really good as most people >>> are just recording at home and not in a beautiful acoustic. But it just >>> looks bizarre to see someone in their living room, sounding like they >>> are in a concert hall. >> Yes, I've often had the same thought, though I prefer the concert hall >> sound, even if artificially produced. Perhaps we need less views of the >> living room, better lighting, etc. >>> >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 08/04/2011 18:26, wikla wrote: >>>>> Very beautiful! >>>>> >>>>> But I would also very much like to _see_ the player and playing - >>>>> important >>>>> part of performance... at least to me. >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> >>>>> Arto >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 13:05:55 +0200, "G. Crona"<kalei...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Indeed you most successfully have Martin. I should also have added an >>>>>> excellent editor as well as a generous sharer of music and knowledge. >>>>>> In >>>>>> short a compleat lutenist. >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> >>>>>> G. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Martin Shepherd"<mar...@luteshop.co.uk> >>>>>> To: "Lute List"<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:56 PM >>>>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: new piece of the month >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Goeran. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have debated on this list before the virtues or otherwise of >>>>>>> "live" >>>>>>> performance-type recordings as opposed to "perfect" commercial >>>>>>> CD-type >>>>>>> recordings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't like to hear blemishes (especially my own!) but at the same >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> don't want to spend hours editing out every single one. I usually >>>>>>> do a >>>>>>> couple of takes and use the best one, sometimes editing particularly >>>>>>> gruesome bits - but on the whole my best recordings have been single >>>>>>> takes, no edits. If I were actually making a CD I think I would >>>>>>> have to >>>>>>> do lots of takes and lots of editing, but my main objective with >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> MP3s is just to share the music and demonstrate the sound of the >>>>>>> lutes. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> hope I have shown that gut strings can be used to good effect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Martin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/04/2011 11:28, G. Crona wrote: >>>>>>>> Cool Martin! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you record it all in one go or weed out mistakes in audacity >>>>>>>> afterwards? You seem to be quite unique in the lute community in >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> BOTH build excellent lutes as well as being a very sensitive and >>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>> player. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> G. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Shepherd" >>>>>>>> <mar...@luteshop.co.uk> >>>>>>>> To: "Lute List"<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:55 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: [LUTE] new piece of the month >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The new piece of the month is in the usual place: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's the last of a series of recordings I made with a Venere 7c >>>>>>>>> lute >>>>>>>>> (67cm, strung all in gut) before it went to its new owner. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hope you enjoy it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Martin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >>
