Further to this below, it also occurs to me that one of the string
composers at the time Andrea Falconiero (c.1586 -1656), did in fact
often put little flourishes on final chords as generally found with
plucked instruments but unlike the majority of his contemporaries
writing concerted music.
However he was equally famed as a lutenist, so perhaps this is where
his affectation originates........
MH
--- On Mon, 11/4/11, Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: a little Granata experiment
To: "Stuart Walsh" <s.wa...@ntlworld.com>, "Vihuelalist"
<vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Monday, 11 April, 2011, 9:01
Dear Stuart,
I guess there's nothing to stop them being played as solos since the
upper line seems to be doubled and the rest of the guitar part is
pretty typical skeletal harmonies found in numerous guitar sources.
Indeed, if you compare with the pieces in the same collection
without
any added parts, the general texture of the guitar part looks much
the
same (ie not a lot of independent contrapuntal activity).
Regarding the held notes at the conclusion of each half, I think
this
suggests that these pieces were in fact conceived primarily for
performance with the outer bowed instruments mentioned in the title
-
so that there would be no need to perpetuate the sound over a full
(or
large part of) long bar by such devices. In short, I suggest they
were
indeed expected to be played as a trio for the best effect.
Martyn
On 4/7/2011 3:36 PM, "Stuart Walsh" <[1][1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
>Granata's Novi Capricci Armonici Musicali in vari toni per la
chitarra
>spagnola, violino and viola concertati et altra sonate per chitarra
sola
>1674 has pieces for solo guitar and, at the beginning, 12 pieces
with
a
>guitar part on the left hand side and then in staff notation
(treble
and
>lightly figured bass) on the right.
>
>This publication has been discussed before but , as usual, I can't
>remember the details and don't want to plumb the archives. Gary
Boyes
>
>[2][2]http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/guitar/1674granata.html
>
>says that these pieces are for violin, guitar and continuo. I think
last
>time the work was discussed somebody said that it might be like
some
>lute trios where there is a lot of doubling (e.g. Hinterleithner
and
>later in the 18th century, Martino and others).
>
>But I think it was Monica who thought that these pieces are(or
might
be)
>for violin and continuo, and alternatively playable as guitar
solos.
>Anyway, I always thought it would be interesting to hear the guitar
part
>with the bass line. So I've had a shot at one of the pieces, the
>Alemanda in E minor on page 20 which is quite attractive as a solo.
I'm
>not sure how fast this piece is to go and I'm taking it fairly
slowly.
>That leaves bar 8, the concluding bar of the first section, with
one
>chord for the duration of the whole bar (or almost). That's a lot
of
>space/time with nothing happening. Often in Allemandas, there are
some
>arpeggio twiddles for the first two beats and then a strummed
chord.
>(Most, but not all, of the later solo alemandas in this publication
are
>treated in this way.)
>
>[3][3]http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Granata.mp3
>
>So this is for guitar and a lute playing the bass line. I didn't
try
and
>do continuo because I don't know enough about it and, anyway, the
guitar
>is covering the main harmony. The bass does double the guitar quite
a
>bit (but there is often a lot of doubling in the Baroque guitar
duets
>I've seen). I think it's quite a strange sound. The second bar of
the
>second section sounds weird. The clash in the repeat of the second
>section, towards the end is just my mistake.
>
>Stuart
>
>
>
>
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References
1.
[5]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=s.wa...@ntlworld.com
2. [6]http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/guitar/1674granata.html
3. [7]http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Granata.mp3
4. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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References
1. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=s.wa...@ntlworld.com
2. http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/guitar/1674granata.html
3. http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Granata.mp3
4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
5. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=s.wa...@ntlworld.com
6. http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/guitar/1674granata.html
7. http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Granata.mp3
8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
