Hello ALL, A
Much has been discussed in the past on this list and on the medieval lute list on whether medieval lutes had frets or not.A There is a common misconception that lutes must have had no frets since the modern day oud has none either.A A In fact nothing seems to be further from the truth than that.A Fretless Ouds appear to be a more recent evolution than originally thought.A Iconography shows that arabic lutes did in fact have frets, other did not.A The illuminations in the Cantigas de Santa Maria do show lutes with and without frets.A I also recall seeing an ancient picture of a persian Oud with frets, but I cannot find it right now.A Does anyone have that pic? I remember it circulating amongs this list.A Quarter tones are not part of the medieval music literature, so I do not see why fretless lutes would have been the norm.A In fact, even if you needed to play quarter tones, this could be achieved through fretting, just like the turkish Saz, which is fretted in quarter tones.A Do not forget that frets have another purpose besides accurate pitch. They allow the sound to be substained more than if played fretless. A That being said, I do enjoy playing oud without frets and do use it in certain medieval repertoire, such as the Cantigas de Santa Maria.A More because I like the sound than for authenticity.A Authenticity can never be achieved when performing medieval music, as we know so little about the instruments, the strings, the way they were built, so on and so forth.A A I first started playing medieval music on my Renaissance lute, because that's all I had.A Throughout the years I acquired several instruments; oud, saz, gittern, turkish laouta, etc, but none can be considered as authentic for medieval music.A They are simply instruments I like to believe are close to what would have been available in the middle ages, but were they that close?A My oud is strung in Gut, because I like the sound, NOT because it is authentic, as even modern gut strings are nowhere close to what would have been available in medieval times. A In short, play the music as you like to hear it, never say or pretend it is the authentic way.....just have fun with it. A A Bruno [1]www.estavel.orgA ( medieval ensemble) On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Stephen Arndt <[2]stephenar...@earthlink.net> wrote: I think that much of Dick Hoban's "Masters of Polyphony" series can be played on a 5-course lute, but check with him to be sure. -----Original Message----- From: David R Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:28 PM To: [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Medieval Lute Hi luters, I'm thinking of getting into a type of lute music I've never played before, namely medieval lute. A Problem is, I don't know where to find the music. A Are there sources specifically for medieval lute, or does one simply have to "just know" what music to play based on knowledge of medieval music in general? A I guess I'm wanting to know what the various genres are, and where to find sources. A Can any of you kind folks help me out on this? A Feel free to inundate me with info if you want to! Thanks, David Rastall To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- A Bruno Cognyl-Fournier A [5]www.estavel.org A -- References 1. http://www.estavel.org/ 2. mailto:stephenar...@earthlink.net 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.estavel.org/