Dear Stewart, Marie Louisse Martinez-Goellner has an article in English based primarily on the Mus Ms 1511CV sketches in the Dorfmueller Festschrift (copy at Oxford): Title: Ars iocundissima : Festschrift fuer Kurt Dorfmueller zum 60. Geburtstag Editors: Horst Leuchtmann; Robert Muenster Publisher: Tutzing : H. Schneider, 1984. For contents see [1]http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/11452778 I do not recall if she discusses the "Il me suffit" score, but I mention it in my dissertation and reached the same conclusions as you (Scribe W). It seems to be a unicum--I couldn't find the same intabulation elsewhere. The lines below the piece may be attempts at alternate measures for "Il me suffit" or subsequent SATB intabulation which does not come down to us. Notice that the top four lines are crossed off, perhaps because they had been incoroprated into the piece.. Examples of sketches for intabulations are rare. What usually happens is that a lutenist takes an existing intabulation and ornaments it his own style. It saves having to work out all the fingerings to make a playable piece. For example the Francesco intabulation of Jannequin's Battaglia with VII=F uses the same basic intabulation as those by Pacoloni and Marco dall'Aquila, each ornamented slightly differently. (The Marco work is edited, tablature and transcription, in [2]http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/marcodallaquila/ Libro Terzo; the Francesco intabulation is No. 110b in the HUP edition). I show something like that in an article in the Proceedings of the International Lute Symposium, Utrecht 1986 pp. 30-49, with a stemma on page 39. AJN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart McCoy" <[3]lu...@tiscali.co.uk> To: "Lute Net" <[4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:02 AM Subject: [LUTE] Il me suffit in Ms Mus 2987 > Dear Arthur, > > Many thanks for your message. I now realise that what at first appears > to be a useless, difficult-to-read intabulation of Il me suffit, is in > fact a necessary half-way house, assuming one is trying to intabulate > polyphonic music from a set of partbooks where there are no barlines. > You have to create a score first to be able to intabulate the piece for > solo lute. > > It also restores my faith in Virdung. His intabulation is a similar > half-way house. Showing the intabulation process would have been more > use to his readers than just giving them a finished intabulation they > could find anywhere. > > Best wishes, > > Stewart. > > -----Original Message----- > From: A. J. Ness [mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net] > Sent: 10 October 2011 00:09 > To: Stewart McCoy; Lute Net > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Il me suffit in Ms Mus 2987 > > Dear Stewart, > > Mus Ms 2987 is a fascicle manuscript. That is several (3?) manuscripts > bound together in the mid-19th century. (One fascicle is in the hand of > Melchior Newsidler. Willi Apel has published the keyboard pieces.) Some > of > the pages were discovered in 1840 loose in one of the huge Lassus choir > books (5 foot tall!), where they must have been for two centuries. > > I see no reason to doubt that they are the first stage in making an > intabulation. There is, however, an unrelated manuscript in the Munich > University library that has German tablature likewise in score format. > But > the pieces are for viols since some parts are labeled "Geygen." There's > lute music in that manuscript also. > > Back across the street to D-Mbs. Mus Ms 1511C has some sketchy pages > (lots > of corrections) of intabuations of "Aspice dominum" by Jachet, followed > by > similar sketchy intabulation of Willaert's "Audi filia." Now in the > middle > of Aspice is a page of German tablature in SATB score format (fol. 3v). > It's a tricky > passage for "Audi filia" that the intabulator worked out in SATB > tablature > score and > then copied into the tablature. At the end of that fascile is a > dedication > to a priest, "Al reverendo patre fra matio." (For a related matter see > my > response to Henner's inquiry.) > > AJN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stewart McCoy" <[5]lu...@tiscali.co.uk> > To: "Lute Net" <[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 5:16 PM > Subject: [LUTE] Il me suffit in Ms Mus 2987 > > >> Whilst browsing through the lute music at the Bayerische >> Staatsbibliothek on line, I noticed an extraordinary intabulation of >> Claudin de Sermisy's Il me suffit in German lute tablature in Ms. > Mus. >> 2987. The manuscript contains music in organ tablature, German lute >> tablature, French lute tablature and Italian lute tablature. What is > so >> unusual about Il me suffit is that each of the four voices has been >> given a separate set of rhythm signs. I have only ever seen this > once >> before, which was in Virdung's Musica getutscht und ausgezogen > (1511). >> Seeing the voices intabulated separately in this way helps one >> understand why the system of one set of conflated rhythm signs > evolved >> as the norm. It is just possible that this copy of Il me suffit was >> intended for four viols - after all, Hans Gerle used German > tablature >> for viols - but having the four voices so compact, as a score rather >> than in separate parts, makes me think that the music was intended > for >> lute solo. Underneath Il me suffit is the start of another piece, > which >> I don't recognise. You can see how the scribe drew his "staves" and > bar >> lines before writing in the numbers and letters for the notes with a >> rhythm sign for each note. There is a description of the manuscript > in >> Boetticher's RISM volume, p. 224. You can see the manuscript at: >> >> >> > [1]http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0004/bsb00049370/images/inde >> > x.html?id=00049370&fip=qrsqrseayaensdaseayaenqrsxdsydensdas&no=44&seite >> =15 >> >> >> Stewart McCoy. >> >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. >> > [7]http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0004/bsb00049370/images/inde x.ht > ml?id=00049370&fip=qrsqrseayaensdaseayaenqrsxdsydensdas&no=44&seite=15 >> >> >> To get on or off this list see list information at >> [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > --
References 1. http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/11452778 2. http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/marcodallaquila/ 3. mailto:lu...@tiscali.co.uk 4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:lu...@tiscali.co.uk 6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0004/bsb00049370/images/index.ht 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
