Your not likely to find many braids on local-shop shelves clocking 0.6 - 0.8 
mm.  In typical braids/fusion lines, even 0.4 mm diameters will exceed a 
breakage rating of 100-lb/45-kg test.  As you might expect, to get to a 
diameter of 0.8 mm, you're handily exceeding double that rating.  Modern 
braided lines are pretty tough stuff.  Of course, you can order the relatively 
high-diameter stuff from shops with a good selection of saltwater gear.  ...And 
there a re vast many brands of modern, high-modulus polyethylene braid out 
there, all pretty much the same.  (Don't buy braided dacron or nylon; those 
still crop up for occasion applications, but are very different things.)

Best,
Eugene

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Winheld <dwinh...@comcast.net>
Date: Monday, January 2, 2012 3:04 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Non-stretchy pegbox leaders.
To: Herbert Ward <wa...@physics.utexas.edu>
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

> Google "Spectra fishing line"  very strong, highly stretch 
> resistant. Another high strength, low stretch fiber is  
> "DYNEEMA" (high modulus polyethylene fiber) "Spectra" might 
> actually be this stuff, different brand names and formulations 
> for different applications. Fishing line seems to be the most 
> basic & readily available for the leader application. Braided 
> stuff may be more easily tied securely to the string than 
> monofilament. I doubt that anything in .60 - .80 mm would damage 
> anything under normal lute string tensions.
> 
> Absolutely start with a thorough nut inspection. If the groove 
> is misshapen in any way, or off angle to the path of the string 
> so as to cause string binding, and/or rough spots, the no-
> stretch material may just speed up the time it takes to break 
> the string while turning the peg.Then lubricate- bees wax, 
> graphite, whatever.  Also make sure the small end of the 
> peg is not catching first, while there is play in the large end- 
> that can drive one totally crazy trying to tune.
> 
> I have never needed leader for that purpose, only used it at 
> times when it made it possible to get two strings out of one 
> length. (Who doesn't want 1/2 price gut?).  I've also never 
> had anything slip on the peg as long as the end coming out the 
> back end of the peghole passes under the part being wound onto 
> the string.
> 
> Hope this all helps-
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Jan 1, 2012, at 10:49 PM, Herbert Ward wrote:
> 
> > 
> > We had a discussion similar to this three years ago
> > (Dec 7 2008).  However, I'd like to revisit the subject with
> > my question rephrased to focus more closely on my problem.
> > 
> > Stretching of strings between the nut and the peg is causing
> > me severe difficulty in tuning -- I can turn the peg 
> > 90 or 120 degrees with no response in the pitch.
> > 
> > Lubricating the nut is of course a possibility.
> > 
> > But I'd also like to try replacing the portion of the string 
> > between nut and peg with a leader of some material which
> >    (a) does not stretch,
> >    (b) can be tied securely and easily to the string,
> >    (c) will not slip on the peg,
> >    (d) will not damage anything,
> >    (e) is strong enough, and
> >    (f) is readily available.
> > 
> > Does anyone have experience in this?
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> 


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