Dear Lex, You made my day. Thank you very much!
Mathias > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von Lex van Sante > Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Januar 2012 11:40 > An: Mathias Rösel; lute mailing list list > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Dance in time > > Hi Mathias, > > The piece has a title. It is a setting of "the Widow" by Simon Ives. > It is to be found on the CD "Old Gautiers Nightingall" > > Cheers! > > Lex > > > Op 9 jan 2012, om 20:24 heeft Mathias Rösel het volgende geschreven: > > >> I'm pretty certain it is a jigge or gigue. > >> Look in Dufault or Mercure for similar pieces. > > > > Not convinced. I've run though the CNRS editions (Dufaut, 2nd ed., and > > Mercure; btw,there are not more than three gigues by Mercure at all). > > None of all these gigues in triple time shows the characteristic > > rhythm of the piece at stake, i.e. crotchet - minim. > > On the other hand, this piece lacks the characteristic rhythm of most > > of Dufaut's and Mercure's gigues in triple time, i.e. dotted crotchet > > - quaver > > - crotchet. No, I don't think it's a gigue. > > > > What is striking, is that this pieces has sequenced motives, i.e. > > phrases that are repeated on different pitches, in all of its three > > sections. And the melody is nowhere broken. I'm suspicious it could be > > an English song among all of the French and Scottish music in that > > book. But, alas, I'm not familiar with English tunes of the 1630ies. - Anyone? > > > > Mathias > > > >>> > >>> Please find the related files attached. Curious, what you think > >>> about > > it! > >>> > >>> Mathias > >>> > >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >>>> Von: Lex van Sante [mailto:lvansa...@gmail.com] > >>>> Gesendet: Montag, 9. Januar 2012 17:54 > >>>> An: Mathias Rösel > >>>> Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Dance in time > >>>> > >>>> Hi Mathias, > >>>> > >>>> Where can I find Panmure 5 so I can get an idea of the music you > >>>> are > >>> talking > >>>> about? > >>>> I suppose it is for a 10 course lute tunes in one of the > >>>> transitional > >>> tunings. > >>>> Do you have a copy or a link? > >>>> > >>>> Cheers! > >>>> > >>>> Lex > >>>> Op 8 jan 2012, om 14:27 heeft Mathias Rösel het volgende geschreven: > >>>> > >>>>> Dear everyone, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a dance in triple time in Panmure 5, fol. 17v-18, that > >>>>> probably is neither a courante nor a sarabande, lacking their > >>>>> chracteristic rhythms. It has hemiolas in cadences, but also other > >>>>> characteristic rhythms, though, like crotchet - minim at some ends > >>>>> of phrases, or crotchet - dotted crotchet - two semiquavers / one > >>>>> quaver (marking the ends of hemiolas). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Some say it's a country dance. Yet I wonder if English country > >>>>> dances (and masques, for that matter) come in even time? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Mathias > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at > >>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >>> > >>> <Panmure-5_Country-dance.pdf><Panmure-5_Country-dance.mid> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
