Hi All,

I assume by "forwarding" David means pushing the string towards the bridge with the stopping finger to flatten it (also possible to pull it in the other direction to sharpen it). I do both, sometimes - much easier with Nylgut and gut, where the finger contact with the string is quite grippy. Incidentally with an octave string the effect is sometimes greater for one string than the other, which is sometimes what you want (if one string would otherwise be not quite a perfect octave with the other).

Pushing or pulling the string across the fingerboard is much riskier because it tends to pull the two strings of the course together.

Who said lute playing wasn't a subtle art?  Happy tuning,

Martin

On 14/02/2012 03:37, David Tayler wrote:
    If you have a temperament with two sets of notes, for frets, one of
    which is flat and one of which is right on, then you can pull the flat
    notes "up" into tune and leave the others in tune.
    You can also "forward" a note slightly flatter, but I can't do that
    reliably.
    d
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    From: hera caius<caiush2...@yahoo.com>
    To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
    Sent: Tue, February 7, 2012 1:23:25 AM
    Subject: [LUTE] Re: imperfectly tune
      --- On Tue, 2/7/12, hera caius<[1]caiush2...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
        From: hera caius<[2]caiush2...@yahoo.com>
        Subject: Re: [LUTE] imperfectly tune
        To: "Nicolae Szekely"<[3]mikiszek...@yahoo.com>
        Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 11:22 AM
      There is no "perfect" tuning. There are several ways to tune the lute
      instruments.
      [1][4]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_temperament
      From my experience I can tell you that you can't have all the notes
    on
      all frets at equal temperament in the same moment. You can adjust the
      frets that you use more often (usually in the first position) and you
      must be patient and forget about "perfect"/"imperfect".
      By the way, as I played your lute before I can tell you in that
    moment
      was very good.
      --- On Mon, 2/6/12, Nicolae Szekely<[5]mikiszek...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
        From: Nicolae Szekely<[6]mikiszek...@yahoo.com>
        Subject: [LUTE] imperfectly tune
        To: [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
        Date: Monday, February 6, 2012, 12:43 PM
          In fact, what things do to a good tune of a lute ? after 4 years,
    I
          can't tune my lute... It is a lute ? (imperfect construction?) Or
      the
          strings ? I use New Nilgut. I thing the soundboard makes some
      harmonics
          that "harm" the perfect sound. Maybe it is some secrets to make a
      verry
          good lute (sounboard) ? I am a little dispered... I cant play on
      lute
          when, for example, the first string, in a position, is correctly
      "g",
          but in c position is NOT "a" ....
          Sorry for my bad english.
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