On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:31:38 -0400, Roman Turovsky wrote > Minkoff's images cannot claim to be cleaned up, considering their "quality". > And photographic reproduction is PD, only EDITORIAL CONTENT is > copyrightable. > RT
This is partly right and partly wrong - but first let's be clear about what we talk here: the rights on the composition (which most likely ended centuries ago :-) or the right of the _image_ of the original work. Those remain with the owner of that artefact (and are independent from the musical rights). And then there are the photographer's rights ... Yes, _iff_ the manuscript (image rights) is public domain then it's pretty easy ro distribute copies/facsimiles of the artefact (manuscript/print/scribble etc.). But - most libraries will not release their content into public domain. As far as I can tell, every time I ordered microfilms/images I needed to sign papers that explicitly forbid further distribution. I had to sign similar agreements working with the microfilm collections of several libraries/institutions (Basel Musikwissenschaft & University Library, London - BL etc.) In case of Minkoff's publications the OP will most likely violate some libraries rights on the images [1]. Cheers, Ralf Mattes [1] Unfortunately, Minkoff publications care misleading copyright claims ... [2] IANAL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jorge Torres" <torr...@lafayette.edu> > To: "Roman Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net> > Cc: <ro...@rolfhamre.com>; <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; > <baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:23 AM > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Minkoff contact > > > All, > > > > Robin's findings are correct. While the item is in the PD, the edited, > > cleaned up images (which is what Minkoff provides) are not and require > > permission (even in the US) from the claimant, who may or may not be > > Minkoff. If one has access to a microfilm of a PD manuscript from a > > library, then no permission is required. The latter is indeed in the PD. > > Nevertheless, it is always polite for scholars to ask for permission and > > acknowledge the library with the original. > > > > Jorge Torres > > > > On May 16, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > > > >> Not in the US. The image remains PD here. > >> RT > >> > >> > >>> Thank you for your reply, > >>> I asked the copyright office at Oxford University Press about a similar > >>> situation and they informed me that when the manuscript is public > >>> domain, the person/company that took the photographs of the manuscript > >>> have the copyright of those images and following I have to ask the > >>> photographer's permission (if there are no publisher to contact). > >>> tricky... ;) > >>> Best > >>> Robin > >>> Siterer Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@verizon.net>: > >>>> My understanding is that a facsimile of a public domain music cannot > >>>> be copyrighted. > >>>> (only editorial content can), so you don't need anyone's permission. > >>>> RT > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ro...@rolfhamre.com> > >>>> To: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; <baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:04 AM > >>>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Minkoff contact > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear list. > >>>>> > >>>>> Does anyone know where to get permission to reprint tablatures from > >>>>> Minkoff Reprint, as Sylvie Minkoff has sadly past away? > >>>>> > >>>>> Best > >>>>> Robin Rolfhamre > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at > >>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- R. Mattes - Hochschule fuer Musik Freiburg r...@inm.mh-freiburg.de
