Thanks, Joe-
That would be instructive. I would guess that in Iadone's case the
bent-wrist could as easily be from double-bass pizzicato technique
transferred over to the lute; I suppose that would depend on how much
Jazz bass he played. I'm pretty sure the late Stan Buetons (another
pioneer, in his way, who influenced & helped a lot of folks in the
lautenverse) also played this way. Stan was properly outraged &
scandalized when I played thumb under at a very early LSA seminar.
Dan
On 8/13/2013 8:49 AM, Mayes, Joseph wrote:
Hi Dan
I have a picture of Iadone from an old string packet. I know how misleading pictures can
be (future guitarists will look at Picasso's "Blue Guitar" and be flummoxed)
but his right hand looks like the archaic bent-wrist guitar style.
I'll send the picture along if I can find it.
Best,
Joe
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: now- How did Iadone play?
Hi Ed-
That's right- New York Pro Musica, Noah Greenberg. And those old heavy
but cool Passauro (Sp?) lutes. Do you know if there are any vids of him
playing? Or even still pictures somewhere? Even some ex- student's
description would help. I have largely gone over to thumb-out myself-
"HIP" thumb out as far as I can figure it out- too much Archlute,
Baroque lute & late Renaissance lute to stay with thumb under
exclusively; so I would like to know more about how Joe played, since
his recorded sound impressed me so much all those years ago.
Thanks! - Dan
On 8/13/2013 6:40 AM, Edward Mast wrote:
Hi Dan,
Joseph Iadone was my first exposure to the lute. He headed an early music
workshop that I attended for several years in Vermont (early 70's). Lucy Cross
taught there also. And Richard Taruskin, who led us through the early chapters
of Hindemith's Elementary Training for Musicians. I never heard any lute solos
there, just amazing ensemble music, and lute songs, of course. (Russell Oberlin
was there the first year I attended). Joe was a truly unique player; no one
played - or plays - like him. I actually first heard about him through my
brother, who was studying bass with him at the Hartt School of Music. He did
play with the New York Pro Musica, founded by Noah Greenberg. I have some of
their recordings with Joe, or Christopher Williams (one of his students)
playing. He also made some wonderful recordings with the Renaissance Quartet.
One of the recordings I have on CD is one he did largely himself at home,
recording all the parts to duos, trios and quartets.
The story as I've heard it is that Hindemith asked Joe to play the lute in his
collegium at Yale, so he had to teach himself how to play it. I think some of
the information about technique he got from the introduction to Varietie of
Lute Lessons. Thumb over (or out) but without nails and thumb-index for single
lines.
Ned
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