Martin,

   Well said. Bream worked largely by intuition based upon his 20th century 
training. While HIP-sters consult a basic foundation of empirical research, so 
much of what is done stylistically is pure conjecture. There's a large element 
of the "Emperor's New Clothes." On many subjects, the sources are either 
silent, obscure, or so heavily filtered through our modern subconscious system 
of preconceptions that we should rightfully admit that there is no present 
answer to many important performance practice issues. But "I'm not sure" never 
goes over well with colleagues, so something is invented. Then we all agree to 
go on pretending that it works so well that it must really be what was done. 
Eventually it becomes dogma and the expected way early music should sound 
according to listeners in late 2013. But the "Hoppy and ideological 
alumni"-style is only one approach. Bream is another. Both are music.

Chris

P.S. For several years I've been playing very close to the bridge. Having lived 
with it for a while, I've been surprised to find that the effect of this 
position is actually more drastic in the regions of phrasing and articulation 
than tone color. 




Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com

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On Sat, 12/7/13, Martin Shepherd <mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote:

 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed
 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Saturday, December 7, 2013, 5:42 AM
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am a bit dismayed by a modern orthodoxy about lutes and
 lute music 
 which is so dismissive of things which stand outside that
 orthodoxy.  
 Whether or not you like Bream's lutes or his playing, he was
 the first 
 to show that it *could* be done.
 
 But the main thing which troubles me is that the basis of
 this current 
 orthodoxy is so shaky.  Modern lutemakers base their
 instruments on just 
 a few museum specimens which are not necessarily
 representative of the 
 multiplicity of lutes of the past, and while we now make
 lutes which are 
 much closer to historical instruments than those of 20 or 30
 years ago, 
 we still don't understand how strings were made in the past
 and still 
 can't reproduce them.
 
 Despite much research, modern players have to guess at the
 nature of 
 musical phrasing and mostly ignore the very important
 dimension of 
 ornamentation, either playing no ornaments at all or taking
 an "anything 
 goes" approach.  We also mostly ignore the fact that
 17th and 18th 
 century lute players played very close to the bridge with
 their fingers 
 plucking almost at right angles to the strings.  This
 has far-reaching 
 implications - playing more or less thumb-inside and over
 the rose, 
 modern players need quite high string tensions, probably
 much higher 
 than were used in the past.
 
 We may like what the best players do now, but it is foolish
 to think 
 that it is historically plausible, let alone "correct".
 
 Martin
 
 
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