Hi Charles,
It is very much in the style of this music for a performer to adapt
notes to others that he likes better and especially cadential
flourishes can be changed. Paul O'Dette talked a bit about this in the
class he gave at the LSA's lute week in 2012. You can see a bit more
of this kind of thing in a score I have on my web site
[1]http://groundsanddivisions.info/Quadro--JJohnson3versions.pdf
It compares 3 versions of John Johnson's Quadro Pavan. Another great
place to see a lot of these comparisons is in the music supplements to
the Lute Society (England)'s Lute News that are available to
subscribers online. Their music editor John Robinson is doing a series
of collections of every version of some ballad tunes (like Carmen's
Whistle) and so far has done Loth to Depart and Go From My WIndow. He
also did pages and pages of examples of improvisatory preludes and more
pages comparing all the versions of Dowland pieces. The last 2 Lute
News online music supplements have included 80 extra pages of music.
If you don't want to join the Lute Society (England), I think you can
buy some of these Lute News issues from their web site - do consider
joining the LSA first please.
One more place to learn a lot about this - at the LSA Seminar in
Cleveland (June 21-28) Nigel North is giving a class on ornamenting
Dowland. I ran into him at a concert lasrt week and asked if it was
going to be all ornament signs or would include divisions too. He says
it will be both and students will get a chance to write their own
versions of the pieces. Chris Morrongiello will be giving a class on
ground - so more on divisions similar to what is different about the 2
versions of Carmen's Whistle.
Nancy
Thank you, Nancy, for this detailed info! I have one version, its quite
similar to what Paul plays, but without the scales at the end. I
wouldn't be surprised if he is using what I have but just embellished
the last variation.
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Nancy Carlin
<[2]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com> wrote:
There are 2 Carmen's Whistles - to check titles like this the
easiest way is to go to Julia Craig McFeely's dissertation. There is
a link to it on the LSA's Links section of the web site and scroll
down to her index of titles. One version is from Pickering and the
other is it Dd. 5.78. Next an easy way to start looking at the music
is to check Sarge Gerbode's web site.
[3]www.Gerbode.net
You can find Pickering by going to Source facsimiles, then British
Library and it is listed as Eg. 2046. Sarge has dd.5.78 under
Cambridge. You could also check out Jan Berggers edition of Johnson
that is available from Tree Editions. If you want to look at another
version - there is one for keyboard in the Fitzwilliam Virginal
Book.
Nancy
Greetings,
Could someone point me to the version of this Johnson work that
Paul
O'Dette plays here:
[1][4]http://youtu.be/3q5pi-Ad7JA
Thank you!
Charles Mokotoff
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References
1. http://groundsanddivisions.info/Quadro--JJohnson3versions.pdf
2. mailto:na...@nancycarlinassociates.com
3. http://www.Gerbode.net/
4. http://youtu.be/3q5pi-Ad7JA
5. http://youtu.be/3q5pi-Ad7JA
6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
7. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/
8. tel:925%20%2F%20686-5800
9. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/
10. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/
11. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/
12. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/
13. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/
