My notes say 10 courses as 10 x 2 and I have a note for Larry Brown:
"Larry Brown From the museum's description: The soundboard of this
lute probably comes from another instrument of the same era and was
then applied to this shell in the XVII or XVIII century, when the
lute was changed into an instrument of ten courses. The soundboard
decorations probably date back to this time as well: the gilding of
the rosette and the execution of three winged animals in pure gold."
I've added a photo of the back of the soundboard which shows a bit
more of the pegbox extension. I have no idea whether this ever was
connected to the instrument. The barring looks very standard
renaissance rather than mandora.
David
At 11:22 +0000 12/7/19, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Thanks again David,
I like the gilded rose - very early eighteenth century Italian
(Neapolitan even) baroque!
Do you know whether the neck remnants on the floor of the case belong
to this relict in its final phase or is it just a bit from some other
instrument? It's a pity we can't see the full extent of this peghead -
do you know if it's set up as one continuous peghead (like some
mandoras, say) or are there two seperate nuts?
The bridge looks quite long - do you know what string disposition its
holes suggest? ie number of courses
regards
Martyn
On Friday, 12 July 2019, 12:13:30 BST, David Van Edwards
<da...@vanedwards.co.uk> wrote:
Dear Both,
Indeed very interesting, I hadn't regarded that one as it's in the
Museum not the Music Conservatory and I didn't know the van der Meer
conjecture. For info I've put a photo of the sad remnants on display
up on my site at
[1]https://www.vanedwards.co.uk/Frei%20in%20bologna.htm
David
At 10:57 +0000 12/7/19, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
> Very interesting Davide, thank you.
> I see there's a copy of the book for sale - but at 150 Euros a bit
too
> much for me to buy for passing interest!
> Does the illustration depict a lute with an extended upper
peghead? -
> or is it just a lute with a single pegbox (either bent back or in
line
> as some 18thC Italian made lutes and some mandoras)?
> regards
> Martyn
>
> On Friday, 12 July 2019, 10:30:09 BST, Davide Rebuffa
> <[2]davide.rebu...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:
> Dear Martyn,
> I wrote something about it in my book on the lute history (IL
LIUTO,
> L'Epos, Palermo, 2012, p 260):
> "A lute, very similar to that shown in Dalla Casa's portrait - and
not
> by chance preserved in Bologna (Civic Medieval Museum) - is shown
in
> the "Table of exhibition illustrated in the provinces of Emilia,
> Bologna, 1888" ("Tavola de l'Esposizione illustrata nelle province
> dell'Emilia, in Bologna, 1888"). The instrument, (inv. 1755) is
> classified in the catalogue edited by John Henry van der Meer as a
> tenor lute from the second half of the 16th century. It bears
inside a
> scroll manuscript, almost certainly false, which reads: Hans Frei
in
> Colonia / 1597. The soundboard, which is dating from the sixteenth
> century but coming from another lute, is not contemporary with the
> bowl, which also dates from the sixteenth century. It has a gilded
rose
> and gold decorations of winged animals.Van Der Meer argues that
neck
> and pegbox date back to a 19th century alteration, but could
rather be
> an example of "French archlute" dating from the 18th century, such
as
> the one owned by!
> Dalla Casa and likely built by Fontanelli."
> Best regards,
> Davide
> > Il giorno 12 lug 2019, alle ore 08:47, Martyn Hodgson
> <[1][3]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> ha scritto:
> >
> > It is reported (in a CD liner) that there is an arciliuto in
the
> > collection of the Conservatorio di Musica in Bologna which
may be
> the
> > very instrument played by Fillipo Dalla Casa.
> >
> > I've looked on the conservatoire's website but can find
nothing. I'd
> be
> > grateful for any information about this elusive instrument.
> >
> > MH
> >
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