Actually, Bob Lundberg installed the pickup for Tom Bergen some years after I had Bob install a Fishman classical guitar transducer on my lute. We spent quite a bit of time and effort locating the pickup for an optimal result, and he made a customized endpin that hid a miniplug jack. It all worked like a charm.
RA __________________________________________________________________ From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of guy_and_liz Smith <guy_and_...@msn.com> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 7:17 PM To: David van Ooijen <davidvanooi...@gmail.com> Cc: LuteNet list <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: pickup or mic inside lute If you can figure out how to get in touch with Tom Bergen in Seattle (last I heard...), he had a great sounding Lundberg 11 course French baroque instrument with an internal pickup mounted near or under the bridge. He had a miniplug built into the strap button that he connected to a wireless transmitter that he concealed under his coat (Pigtail?). Worked great. He played it at LSA one year and it was good enough to fool some well-known professionals. IIRC, it wasn't an add-on to an existing instrument; he had Lundberg build it specifically to accommodate the pickup, and I think it took at least a couple of tries to get it right. I don't recall any details, but I'm sure Tom could tell you if you can get ahold of him. I also have a Schertler (which I confess that I haven't actually used much). One thing I discovered is that it is quite sensitive to exactly where you stick it on the top. If you are getting a poor sound, try moving it around. For the instrument I tried it with, just above the base side of the bridge seemed to be the best spot, but YMMV. Guy -----Original Message----- From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu [[1]mailto:lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David van Ooijen Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 2:52 AM Cc: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Re: pickup or mic inside lute I have a separate Schertler stick-on mic that I can use on all lutes/guitars I play. I can plug it into an amp I bring myself, or alternatively have a preamp (also Schertler) to give the PA-man a Direct Out while I'm still in control of my own EQ. The preamp also has a mute button, comes in handy when not playing or when tuning. A normal mic sounds better, but this works and had no feed back issues. A mic inside an instrument (I have a classical guitar with a build-in condenser mic) sounds rather boomy and can have feed-back issues. ymmv David ******************************************* David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fda vidvanooijen.wordpress.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C2ba98fe764fc47df4cfb08 d7abbc0536%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637166696333099 198&sdata=YIN3NmhKr39X4IhZHC1rMvRWNJVvbzbD5nHZMgYZrLM%3D&reserv ed=0 ******************************************* On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 07:40, Ed Durbrow <[3]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp> wrote: I'm thinking of having my archlute repaired which will entail removal of the top. I'm also thinking if I do that, I'd like to have a pickup or mic installed. I'm looking for recommendations for a natural sounding pickup or mic inside the lute that is no hassle use. I need something that can be plugged into a wireless transmitter. The wireless system I have is a high end Sennheiser (ew 100 G2 ) that uses a condenser mic. I don't understand this stuff very well. I don't know if a pickup can look the same as a condenser mic to the transmitter. The ew-100 G2 manual says. AF characteristics Max. input voltage (at peak deviation) Microphone 1.8 Vrms, unbalanced 1.2 Veff, unbalanced Line 2.4 Vrms Input impedance Microphone 10 ké, unbalanced10 ké, unbalanced Line 1 Mé Thanks in advance. 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