On 15/06/14 19:26, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 13.06.14 15:00, Allan Duncan wrote:
>> On 13/06/14 14:43, Toby Corkindale wrote:
>>> In the city, even on exchanges where there is only a telstra DSLAM,
>>> you can still go with a provider who is reselling the telstra port.
>>> I would be surprised if this isn't available outside of the metro area.
>>> These are referred to as "off-network" plans when you're on an ISPs website.
>>
>> May only be ADSL1 though.
>
> Here in Tecoma (Dandenong Ranges), my ISP (Internode) provides ADSL2+.
> Is it a rural exchange which would limit it to ADSL1, or the 5 km line
> length?


5 K?  Even the most pessimistic route to the extreme of Tecoma is under 
3.5 Km.
More likely crappy copper and joints.
I'm further out than you in north Upwey, and I get 7 Mbit/s on a 
standard profile, which gives you the best speed at 9 dB SNR.  It has 
not done a reset for over a week, and the RX CRC error rate is quite 
modest.  If you are prepared to live with it falling over at least daily 
you can get 9 Mbits/s at 3 dB SNR, but  I had a period a couple of weeks 
ago when I had to pull it right back to ADSL1 for a couple of days. 
Near end cross-talk getting into the aerial cable maybe.

Belgrave has at least iinet DSLAMs, maybe some Internode ones as well - 
they did some scheduled work there a couple of weeks ago and put us off 
air for 8 hours so anything could have been changed.

If you are on an iinet DSLAM and want to change over to naked there is 
(at least when I tried six months ago) a need to manually alter things 
which can leave you without ADSL for up to 5 weeks, but not for the 
Internode DSLAMs - stupid vs remote managed?

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