On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, Andrew McGlashan <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> On 9/10/2014 7:46 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > ISTM that if neither upstart nor systemd deliver the goods once
> > finished, then a third new offering will arise. Parallel starting of
> > services, and effective handling of events will be provided, one way or
> > another, I expect.
> 
> Perhaps.  What makes a monolithic piece of software, like systemd the
> answer?  Traditional Linux/Unix is built around processes that do ONE
> thing very well and without re-inventing the wheel.  Sure we have
> choices where multiple wheels are available, but usually those wheels
> can act stand alone from competing wheels without locking in the car to
> use a specific wheel ... so to speak.

You may be thinking of GNU/HURD.  Linux has always had a monolithic kernel 
because it performs better.

> > I'm quite prepared to blow raspberries at systemd too, but would need a
> > real-world reason to do so.
> 
> There is real world experience in other systems that can count as well.
>  The enormity of the systemd change should not be understated.  There is
> often a case for no change or more limited change when change is
> actually necessary.  There is also a place for other modular type
> solutions to perceived problems of sysvinit as well as /fixing/ the
> broken scripts that are to blame for pushing forward a replacement when
> none is really warranted.

But when developing software real-world experience in developing such software 
counts for a lot.

I've been a DD for ~14 years.  I know how Debian works.

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