> Too disruptive for open-minded?  Do we need censorship to protect us?

I cannot follow you. Maybe my wording let me down. I was not talking about
censorship at all.

The beauty (and longevity) of Unix is its modular approach with clearly
defined APIs.

Systemd is the oppposite. A quite central project, an init, which
practically unpredictable development direction, which makes it more and
more difficult to replace it by something else.

I can easily replace Linux with a Windows desktop. It's booting pretty fast
and it logs so you can read it with an Event viewer. And you have a
registry which is faster to read then configuration text files.

If you want Unix utilities, install CygWin on it.It's not great but.. well,
you have to make allowances to have such a beautiful init process which
does nearly everything the developers could think of.

Occasionally it fails to boot or crashes and nobody understands why .. but
it is really booting fast.

(</Irony>.. just in case you missed it.

> If FreeBSD works better for you then why don't you just use it?

For the same reason I am writing this on a Windows computer.

> Why don't you run a training session for other LUV members?

I suggested to prepare a demonstration of its capabilities in server
automation.

I am afraid I am not a very good source of wisdom if it comes to 'FreeBSD
on the laptop'. As I tried to explain, it is as presenting a 4WD and
demonstrating its capabilities as a racing car.. It is not a good racing
car and I am not a good Formula 1 driver.

I spent many hours to discourage friends and acquaintances to ask me how to
fix and configure their (often Windows) laptop/tablet/smartphone;-)

Regards
Peter



On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Russell Coker <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:13:20 AM Peter Ross wrote:
> > The problem seems that commercial (or more sinister?) interests at work
> so
> > it is possible that such things are happening.
>
> Sinister?  LOL
>
> > Systemd is too much of a disruptive beast to be tolerated in an
> open-minded
> > Open Source community. It is more or less a hostile init ABI without
> > certainty of reasonable stability for the surrounding environment.
>
> Too disruptive for open-minded?  Do we need censorship to protect us?
>
> > E.g. the current setup where I work now, with VMware ESXi and CentOS, is
> > simply inferior to the way I could manage FreeBSD/ZFS/jails over the last
> > years.
>
> If FreeBSD works better for you then why don't you just use it?  Why don't
> you
> run a training session for other LUV members?
>
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