i agree with Luvit 3.0 proposal. The cleaner, the better ;-)
Trying to avoid breaking change can lead also to really confusing things... 
(i was afraid when i saw Tim's last blog post about luvit-loader, my 
thoughts were: "oh no, things getting really complicated now! ;-)"


regards
Lionel






Le lundi 3 octobre 2016 22:33:38 UTC+2, Tim Caswell a écrit :
>
> I just put up a PR for moving luvit to the new require system.  If you're 
> concerned about breaking changes, test this version of luvit against your 
> app and let me know (here or in the PR) what your problems are.  There are 
> some obscure breaking changes around the edges of the require system, but 
> on the whole, the major semantics stay the same and the internals clean up 
> a lot!
>
> https://github.com/luvit/luvit/pull/932
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Tim Caswell <t...@creationix.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I'm proposing switching to the require system that lit uses internally.  
>> It's a custom lua require loader that extends the native require to know 
>> about luvit style require paths instead of the luvit 1.x style require that 
>> wholesale replaces require and then falls back to native if not found.
>>
>> The new system is much cleaner and works with even plain luajit or lua 
>> and luv.so. (see https://luvit.io/blog/pure-luv.html)
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Dmitri Voronianski <
>> dmitri.vo...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> But what about lit and luarocks? As I understand luvit will use native 
>>> requires?
>>>
>>> 26 сент. 2016 г., в 23:06, Tim Caswell <t...@creationix.com 
>>> <javascript:>> написал(а):
>>>
>>> What do you mean "only in current shape"?  I won't be changing any of 
>>> the APIs and the current set of APIs in the 'luvit' package will still be 
>>> available.  They will just require being included in your app's 
>>> dependencies the same as any other non-core dependencies.  The newly 
>>> renamed `luvit-node` metapackage will still pull in the entire luvit 2.x 
>>> standard library.  So at most, you'll need to add a single line to your 
>>> package.lua to migrate to luvit 3.0 from luvit 2.0.
>>>
>>> Also with a reduced scope in the core and switching to a saner require 
>>> system, I'll have more time and ability for actually writing docs.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Dmitri Voronianski <
>>> dmitri.vo...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I recently started to update my luvit packages to luvit 2.0 - 
>>>> https://github.com/luvitrocks/ as well as writing API in luvit. As for 
>>>> me it will nice to have luvit and lit stable and add more features to 
>>>> them. 
>>>> I think lit and luvit will be more successful only in current shape.
>>>>
>>>> 2016-09-26 21:17 GMT+02:00 Tim Caswell <t...@creationix.com 
>>>> <javascript:>>:
>>>>
>>>>> Luvit 2.0 has been stable for a while now, the refactor to split into 
>>>>> luv, luvi, and luvit was a great success.  Now it seems the major issues 
>>>>> are around documentation and what's legacy support and what people should 
>>>>> be using for new projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two competing interests currently.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Large legacy projects that use luvit in production and depend on 
>>>>> the node.js style libraries as well as the exact semantics of the 
>>>>> original 
>>>>> luvit 1.0 require system (that replaces lua's require).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. New luvit projects that want a clean start and are confused about 
>>>>> the strange behavior or the luvit 1.0 require (hint, I didn't know lua 
>>>>> very 
>>>>> well when I designed it).
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose we republish the current luvit system as `luvit-node` or 
>>>>> something to signify that it's a node.js clone in lua.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then with the main `luvit` namespace free, we can publish 
>>>>> `luvit@3.0.0` which uses the new luvit-loader require logic the same as 
>>>>> lit.  We can also remove all non-essential libraries to make this core 
>>>>> less 
>>>>> opinionated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically the idea is to take https://github.com/squeek502/luver 
>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsqueek502%2Fluver&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNF9-HveEsDBX00ocIuL4_vAeLXkNw>
>>>>>  
>>>>> and make it the main `luvit` that is the base everything else builds on 
>>>>> top 
>>>>> of. (we'll still have the raw luvi option for people wishing to make 
>>>>> single-binary applications as well)
>>>>>
>>>>> what do you all think?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Tim Caswell
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *Dmitri Voronianski*
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