Hello,

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Hannes Tschofenig
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Any thoughts about this classification?

I have just asked the same question a few minutes ago :)


On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Joe Touch <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm concerned that these ranges are too similar, and the distinction would
> be short-lived.
>
> I expect devices to persistently operate differently when their parameters
> are at least 2 order of magnitudes different.

I totally agree and couldn't say better.

On my side, I would replace Class 1 by Class 2. According to my
analysis, a good chip with the lowest common denominator  features for
Internet of Things could be the STM32L Family (Ultra Low Power
Cortex-M3 32 bit, up to 48K SRAM/384K Flash, AES) :

http://www.emcu.it/STM8L-STM32L-UltraLowPowerPlatform.html

So, is there any need for 6LoWPAN or a "Lightweight IP Stack" ? Why
not to capitalize around the lwIP stack that, moreover, supports IPv6
? :

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/lwip.git/tree/CHANGELOG

"2011-05-17: Patch by Ivan Delamer (only checked in by Simon Goldschmidt)
  * nearly the whole stack: Finally, we got decent IPv6 support, big thanks to
    Ivan! (this is work in progress: we're just post release anyway :-)"


By the way, after that, there are the future chips around the
Cortex-A5 architecture :

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:9DxfCwAl1JAJ:realview.com.cn/shoppic/down/seminar/1011/Track%25201/Tech%2520Symposium%2520-%2520Cortex-A5.pdf+Tech%2520Symposium%2520-%2520Cortex-A5.pdf&hl=fr&gl=fr&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjTOGdalGDTg4lwwL-QM8rwVQi9ywlEvO_0aexJne-9lLDQooQzsi9LcFHNMFBm3bbbNT67qB8RURsATZ0TtqoeNsNWGVKk6fEeV_7SmMN_t-SAW4ZWRu30aZhjYkExu-DYJATS&sig=AHIEtbT8XrAlTv_cpDxvNbaECQLwVpCN0Q


Best Regards,

Guillaume FORTAINE


On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Joe Touch <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm concerned that these ranges are too similar, and the distinction would
> be short-lived.
>
> I expect devices to persistently operate differently when their parameters
> are at least 2 order of magnitudes different.
>
> The numbers below are so close that they will change and thus likely overlap
> over timescales that are too short, IMO, for the IETF to be concerned.
>
> (i.e., there was a time when the difference between 4KB and 8KB was
> important; now it's irrelevant)
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 1/24/2012 8:25 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> after sending the workshop announcements to a few working groups I was
>> asked what I mean by "constrained" device.
>>
>> I responded with a pointer to the classification Carsten proposed in
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bormann-lwig-guidance-00:
>>
>> +---------+-----------------------+-------------------------+
>> | Name | data size (e.g., RAM) | code size (e.g., Flash) |
>> +---------+-----------------------+-------------------------+
>> | Class 1 | ~ 10 KiB | ~ 100 KiB |
>> | | | |
>> | Class 2 | ~ 50 KiB | ~ 250 KiB |
>> +---------+-----------------------+-------------------------+
>>
>> During the IAB technical plenary at the last IETF meeting Jari claimed
>> that we need to have a Class 0 here as well to cover his sensor
>> deployment.
>>
>> Any thoughts about this classification?
>>
>> Ciao
>> Hannes
>>
>>
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