Hello,

In the attached .pdf, page 6, there are remarks about the “size of DNS 
replies”.
It points out that the authority and additional records mean higher 
overload.
In that text you add a footnote (3) about “avoiding the inclusion of these 
sections”.
The footnote states, I quote :
“It can be removed with dig using the options +noauthority +noadditional”

I hope you’re not too serious about this !
From dig help :
                +[no]answer         (Control display of answer)
                +[no]authority      (Control display of authority)
                +[no]additional     (Control display of additional)
→ these options control the *display* of the sections,
     not if a name server should include them in the reply !

Otherwise said : the (DNS) client has *no control* about what the name 
server
 will include in its answers.
 That control has to be exercised on the name server itself, if at all 
possible.
 (for Bind, look at the option : minimal-responses)


What I fail to see in the text is how data about smart objects gets 
published
 in/by DNS servers in the first place.
 This can be static, but I guess that rapidly one will want a more dynamic 
way :
 like an object registering itself upon waking up ?
 (just like Windows AD service updates DNS with SRV records upon starting)
 And that – dynamically updating – introduces security challenges,
 certainly if smart objects would be “out there” somewhere on the Internet
 and the required DNS server to send updates to,
 is visible to the Internet as well.


Kind regards,

Marc Lampo
Security Officer
EURid (for .eu)

From: Antonio Jara [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 22 May 2012 09:10 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Yan Wang
Subject: Re: [Lwip] Lwip Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3

Dear  Dijk and Yan,

We are also implementing a lightweight version of mDNS and DNS protocol for 
constrained environments.

Our approach is mainly focused on the optimizations of the replies included 
in the packet, e.g. only include at the beginning the PTR record instead of 
the PTR + SRV + AAAA.

It is also considering the options of include some special query to ask 
specify TXT tuples, instead of general TXT entries, since the idea is to 
describe the devices in a set of TXT records etc...

We are finishing our implementation, therefore, we are highly interested to 
write an informational document about the design issues considered for the 
lightweight considerations for DNS.

I enclose a paper with some initial considerations, but we are extending it 
and implementing it right now on Contiki OS. Therefore, as soon as we have 
the final conclusions, guidelines based on the results and stable 
implementation. We can start to define this draft.

In conclusion, we would like to know about the interest for this work from 
the WG and the possibilities to reach a collaborative approach with Dr. 
Wang.

Best regards,
Antonio J. Jara

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From: "Dijk, Esko" <[email protected]>
To: Yan Wang <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc:
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:57:48 +0000
Subject: Re: [Lwip] questions on LWIG
Hello Yan,

the empty sections in the document are currently still open to 
contributions.  As far as I know, nobody is working on these sections now. 
The scope of DNS is indeed not a simplified DNS protocol, but rather 
light-weight implementation techniques of DNS.  In my view that includes DNS 
client used for “typical DNS duties”; and also multicast-DNS (mDNS).

regards,
Esko

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Yan 
Wang
Sent: Thursday 17 May 2012 8:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Lwip] questions on LWIG

Hi all,

I am interested in LWIG group. I read draft-bormann-lwig-guidance-01, and 
the Section 3 is much helpful to my work. But I saw that most chapters in 
the Section 4 only have the title/outline. I don’t know whether there is 
nobody interested in them, or they just follow the conventional ways and don’t 
need much explanation, or somebody are working on them.

My current work is focus on DNS, and I know IETF does not want DNS to take 
duties of non-DNS. So what is the defined range of DNS in Section 4.4 in 
this draft? I think it shouldn’t be defining a simplified DNS protocol. Is 
it the implementation experience on constrained networks similar to 
dnsmasq/mdns? Please give your kind advices.


Best regards,
Yan Wang


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