On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Harald Dunkel <ha...@afaics.de> wrote:
> On 04/21/16 08:05, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Harald Dunkel <harald.dun...@aixigo.de> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> AFAIR the idea of the containers was to provide isolation
>>> between the host and the user-space instances.
>>>
>>> Are we loosing this with systemd support?
>>
>> What makes you think that?
>>
>> The host only needs systemd cgroup mount, it doesn't need to run systemd.
>>
>
> AFAIU you cannot run systemd in a LXC container dom1, unless
> these cgroup mount points are setup in dom0 for some initia-
> lization.

There are requirements in the host, yes.
Even without systemd in the container, you'd still need cgroup support
in the host.

> I am not sure if this still counts as "isolated".
> Shouldn't systemd in dom1 just work, no matter what?

If that's what you want for "isolation", then use KVM.

Looking at /usr/share/lxcfs/lxc.mount.hook, if you have kernel with
cgroup namespace support, you might not need to setup host cgroup.
CMIIW

# no need for lxcfs cgroups if we have cgroup namespaces
[ -n "$LXC_CGNS_AWARE" ] && [ -f /proc/self/ns/cgroup ] && exit 0

-- 
Fajar
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