Beautiful. This is really exciting stuff. I'll be updating the aur package asap and trying it out =)
Have you heard back from the oxygen developers regarding compiling oxygen out of kde? Last I remember, it was planned but I've never heard about any work on it. J. Leclanche On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Martin Graesslin <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi LXDE and Razor developers, > > back when Razor was still its own project (again congrats on seeing what you > share and deciding to work together!) I had the idea of making KWin more > attractive for non KDE Plasma based desktop environments. For our 4.10 release > I provided a patch to get a stand-alone and trimmed down version of our window > manager. I don't want to re-iterate myself, so just check the thread on the > razor mailing list [1] :-) > > In the meantime we had our 4.11 release and I recently rebased the patch to > this branch. You can find it in [2]. This is our last release based on Qt 4 > and > by that probably also the last time I have to do this (we might split repos). > > And with that we can look into the future. We are currently working on the > port to Qt 5 and KF 5 and it looks quite good already. Good enough that I feel > confident to write to you. > > With KF 5 our dependencies go down significantly. Instead of a generic linkage > to kdelibs we can now link just the few pieces we actually need. I started to > document our current library dependency in [3]. As you can see it's not a lot > more than one would expect from an X11 (and Wayland) window manager and > compositor. > > And I have some ideas to make KWin even more attractive. I want to advice > distributions to split KWin into three packages: > * KWin core > * KWin Plasma Desktop Integration > * KWin configuration modules > > The idea is that KWin core contains the bare window manager and compositor. > This should only depend on KF 5 tier 1 and tier 2 libraries. This is > completely without UI (except window decorations but those are plugins > anyway). > > All our UI is done in QML currently using Plasma components. That will > probably not change for our next version - after all we have enough porting to > do ;-) But hardly any of the QML files are hard coded. Most are loaded through > a plugin mechanism at runtime which allows to easily replace them. And this > allows to just move all of them into an "integration" package and have another > integration package for other desktop environments. > > The third part are our config modules. KWin doesn't have configuration > interfaces built in but uses out-of-process UIs. Those configuration modules > just modify our config file and send a DBus signal to inform all running KWin > instances to reload the config. With this mechanism it's again not very > difficult > to provide config interfaces more specific to a desktop environment and also > to > provide a "trimmed down" config. That's what we do for our Plasma Active > shell: > KWin doesn't have any configuration interfaces there as the chance to destroy > it due to bad settings is too high. > > If you have any specific questions or suggestions on what we should do to have > a well integrated KWin into LXDE/Razor please let me know. At the moment it's > the best time to draft plans for the future before too much adjustments have > been done. Please also provide some feedback on the idea of splitting KWin > into several packages. It's the first time that I'm sharing this idea. > > Oh and just as a reminder: if you need any X11 specific Qt code please check > what we have. Especially KWindowSystems might provide quite some nice and > useful additions. Also things like our libtaskmanager might be useful. Getting > X right can be quite annoying and some parts of our code base have 15 years of > fighting X experience ;-) The code is there ready to be used. > > Best Regards > Martin Gräßlin > KWin maintainer > > [1] https://groups.google.com/d/topic/razor-qt/5LI_BxBewPU/discussion > [2] > http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=clones%2Fkde-workspace%2Fgraesslin%2Fkde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=2d031dfda7581476857bf92df7da28f5f35f8e03 > [3] https://community.kde.org/KWin/Dependencies > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! > Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies > and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step > tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. 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