> But can't any of this DOM be "faked", or rather generated on the fly, > while the text is being parsed? You can implement parts of the DOM. mapping Lynx's implied DOM onto the Netsacape one involves a lot of code. > At least in my case, it seems to be more the "submit button then goes to > a link" kind of JavaScript uses that I run into. You could recognize particular idioms, but remember, most of these submit buttons don't just do the link but do other things (there may be some people so carried away with Javascript that they purely simulate HTML, but most of them do it to achieve simulataneous graphical effects. You may well get away with ignoring most of the side effects, but I think you would be on to a losing battle. People who write such pages write them for big 2, or even big 1, GUI browsers and only for those. I suspect that other technologies are going to make such pages even more inaccessible in the near future. I mentioned SVG before, and, although some of the questions on the list recently have been about things that intrinsically need something like it, one Australian popular technology journalist asking recently asked for a status report and said that the talk of a year ago was that it would be "the future of the web". Given that we work largely work in a market economy, I think people's choices are: - vote with you feet - boycott the site and tell them that you have boycotted it - unfortunately Lynx users probably have no force in the market (many companies aim to please 80% of the market, on the basis that supporting the remaining 20% is much more costly; - demonstrate to the web page authors that investment in accessibility will pay off better than competing ways of investing (I doubt that this will work except for those who have a monopoly of an existnig niche of the market); - convince governments that there is a public policy issue that requires regulation that is effectively enforced (noting that people can always go off shore); - create a fashion in the mass market for good design (this may happen in the long term, as fashions tend to go in cycles); - create a new technology fashion that, as a side effect, forces good accessibility (I doubt this can be done); - create tools which are not conventional web browsers, but rather optimised for reverse engineering commercial quality pages to the extent necessary to navigate them (this is probably going to require some skill in the user, and will be faced with a moving target) - note that many commercial web content providers consider the ease of reverse engineering of HTML a serious disadvantage - a recent SVG question was on technical means to enforce copyright. ; To UNSUBSCRIBE: Send "unsubscribe lynx-dev" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
