Dear Kornel, On 2015-12-11, Kornel Benko wrote: > Am Freitag, 11. Dezember 2015 um 21:51:41, schrieb Guenter Milde > <mi...@users.sf.net> >> On 2015-12-11, Kornel Benko wrote: >> > Am Freitag, 11. Dezember 2015 um 12:53:41, schrieb Uwe Stöhr >> > <uwesto...@web.de>
>> > It is not, that I am criticizing that the docs are designed for >> > pdflatex. (Which itself is not valid for japanese docs). >> > It is only the removal from the test suite. >> Problem: the "right thing" (marking the intended output format in the >> files) had the wrong side-effect of no longer testing other formats: >> * up to now, the manuals were designed for pdflatex (except for the >> japanese), but this was not documented (besides some posts to the >> devel-list). >> The tests with other formats highlighted this omission and let to >> improvement of the documentation: the intended "design format" is now >> indicated in the documents »the LyX way«" -- specifying the default >> output format. >> This does not prevent export to other formats, it only controls the >> binding of the "view" and "update" buttons and menu entries. >> * the test suite seems to create tests >> - for a set of output formats, if there is no explicit default output >> format of the to-be-tested document >> - only for the default output format, if it is set. > Yes, and this was done by intend. We wanted to have default output > format only if really necessary. And in this case we 'knew', that other > formats are not working. Now, all docs are marked this way. However, regarding the docs, the test suite could treat "pdf2" just like "default". Before the recent changes (at 3a7ec39a790/lyxgit 2015-12-09) there were just 4 instances of \default_output_format pdf2: (|es|de|fr|ja)/Math.lyx All of these are also handled by the *Tests categorization pattern files: suspiciousTests:27:export/.*/es/(Math|UserGuide|ejemplo_con_lyx)_dvi3_systemF suspiciousTests:42:export/doc/(es/|fr/)Math_dvi3_systemF suspiciousTests:115:export/doc(|/de|/es|/fr)/Math.*systemF suspiciousTests:116:export/doc/(|de/|es/|fr/)Math_(dvi3|pdf5)_texF ignoredTests:10:export/.*/ja/.*_(pdf[245]|dvi3).* The full set of non-default settings in doc/* is: /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/es/Math.lyx:151:\default_output_format pdf2 /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/Math.lyx:152:\default_output_format pdf2 /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/fr/Math.lyx:156:\default_output_format pdf2 /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/de/Math.lyx:164:\default_output_format pdf2 /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/ja/Formula-numbering.lyx:63:\default_output_format pdf /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/ja/LaTeXConfig.lyx:24:\default_output_format pdf /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/ja/Shortcuts.lyx:51:\default_output_format pdf /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/ja/DummyDocument2.lyx:24:\default_output_format pdf /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/ja/Math.lyx:187:\default_output_format pdf2 /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/ja/DummyDocument1.lyx:24:\default_output_format pdf /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/ja/MergedManuals.lyx:34:\default_output_format xhtml /usr/local/src/lyx/lib/doc/MergedManuals.lyx:34:\default_output_format xhtml (I did not test for examples and templates, though.) ... > We have to distinguish somehow if some formats are not allowed (because > for example the file is written specifically for creating html) or only > not desired. I don’t know how. The best (for the test suite) would be a > format change, describing available output formats. ATM, we have to > guess. Actually, for the manuals I see not much of a change if we ignore the default_output_format setting for now. Proposal (too late for 2.2.0 ?) a) use the "default output format" setting for the recommended format b) add a new (expert) setting "excluded output formats" - as a key word for modules and layout files - possibly also to Document>Settings c) consider excluding more output formats based on BufferParams, e.g. * pdf[245] and dvi3 if the language is Japanese * XeTeX with TeX fonts unless the inputenc is ASCII With b), it would also be possible to prevent wrong output for non-working formats that don't result in an error. Examples: * es/*_pdf[45]_TeXF - Spanish Intro LyX with Xe/LuaTeX and TeX fonts: due to a Babel bug the babel autostrings are wrong (and sometimes fail). * examples/seminar*(pdf2|pdf5|dvi3) Günter
